Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Dinar Corp Video

I found this video the other day on YouTube.   I think there's a lot to learn from it.



My first observation is that there is nobody from Dinar Corp in this video.  Does that seem odd?  Well if you've watched the other Dinar Corp videos you know that their owner "Sam" never appears on camera.  In a couple of videos he had his spokesman Ivy Johnson appear, and Ivy has spoken on a few conference calls, but we never see or hear from "Sam".   According to the review of Dinar Corp at Iraqi Dinar Money "Sam" is Samir Al-Tayeh who was the subject of a lawsuit by the attorney general of Illinois.  According to Ivy the owner's name is actually Hussam, not Samir.  Well whoever he is he's apparently very shy.

My second observation is the background.  Notice anything unusual?  Empty bookshelves.  Don't people usually put books in bookshelves?  Or at least knickknacks?  There's nothing!  Not a good sign if you're looking for a dinar dealer who plans on being around for awhile, huh?  Okay, maybe this isn't their headquarters.  Maybe this is a studio location or something, but even studios have props.  Man, I don't know about you but I'd like some visual indication that my dinar dealer plans on being around for awhile in the event of a lop so that I can exchange my dinar for the new dinar or USD.

Next is this "Fresh" guy.  For those of you who aren't familiar with him he's the host of People Invested.  He used to be one of the intel guys at People's Dinar until he started his own site about a year ago.  Here's one of his biggest hits.


Fresh (Fresh Chat at PI @ 3:40pm EST Tuesday): PI 10/4/11 October 4th, 2011 02:59 pm  
[Fresh] OKAY BACK
[Elilail] Fresh talk to us man
[Sushi] Fresh wb!
[sisterbreen] Fresh Fresh Fresh
[starjump123] woo woo woo
[Fresh] JUST GOT OFF A PHONE CALL 5 MINUTES AGO
[beachdreaming777] momof5 Fresh has some great great great news
[Elilail] Fresh yea?
[Lady Sarah] beachdreaming777 Fresh Fresh Fresh
[para~investigator] starjump123 Really!
[Sushi] Fresh k, and?
[Fresh] I SAID WHAT’S GOING ON AND THE RESPONSE WAS OH NOTHING…. JUST SITTING BACK WATCHING THE RV….
[starjump123] ummmm WHOA
[momof5] beachdreaming777
[Elilail] Fresh wha wha wha?
[Tank2323]
[Fresh] I SAID OH REALLY
[Elilail] right…
[Elilail] I would say the same thing….
[Sushi] k
[para~investigator] starjump123 04/10/2011 21:51:00 Baghdad (NINA) – President Jalal Talabani will hold a press conference later in the evening, after leaders of political blocs have concluded their meeting. Source at the President’s Office told NINA, “Talabani will announce the meeting’s results and the reasons for postpone making decisions concerning important political issues.
[Fresh] I WAS TOLD A MORE SPECIFIC WINDOW OF WHEN THIS COULD AND SHOULD HAPPEN AND IT’S VERY SOON
[Elilail] oh yea?
[Elilail] how soon….
[templejc] Tell us
[Elilail]
[AMAC0910] para~investigator That could be interesting!!!!
[Lady Sarah] Fresh ummm the question of the hour
[para~investigator] Fresh Inquiring minds want to know!!!
[AZGhostHunter] “soon”
[templejc] We can handle it
[belabun] raising my blood pressure in anxiety waiting for Fresh to spill the beans
[DINARHOPES] Fresh how soon please
[dlcarr] Days, weeks, hours, months?????
[JamVox] so whats the specific window?
[para~investigator] AMAC0910 Yes, very interesting
[Tank2323] Fresh any word on M in or out
[Fresh] I WAS TOLD TO LOOK FOR THIS TODAY AND WE COULD BE CASHING OUT TOMORROW
[sisterbreen] Fresh Fresh Fresh wow wow wow
[Elilail] oh yea?
[belabun] omg omg omg
[momof5] Fresh nooowayyyyy
[dsatmhk] Yay!
[templejc] Wowwwwwwwwwwssssss
[DINARHOPES] Fresh thats fantastic
[Tank2323] Fresh shut up!!!!!
[para~investigator] Fresh Sounds good to me man!!!
[Lady Sarah] Fresh i am in htat window every day, thank you for shareing that i am not alone [poco loco] its been very soon i want it now
[dlcarr] Fresh From your lips to God’s ears!
[Sushi] Fresh that would be wonderful!!!!
[Elilail] that’s flippin awesome
[belabun] Won’t send a hit man out if it is not true, I promise
[templejc] Woooooooooll hooollllllllll
[AMAC0910] Fresh That sounds awesome!!!!
[beachdreaming777] Fresh hey bud.. can you PM me?
[fxmanaz] whats up dinar land peeps
[Fresh] MY RESPONSE WAS IDENTICAL TO YA’LLS TOO THIS WOULD BE SIMPLY AMAZING
[starjump123] wooooooooo
[dsatmhk] Wish I could see everyone smiling!
[Elilail] Fresh did this person give a reason why?
[templejc] U can call me in about an hour.
[Fresh] THERE ARE MORE SPECIFICS… WE CAN CHAT ABOUT THEM LATER TONIGHT – NO FINAL WORD ON IF WE DO A CALL – I’M GOING TO BE BUSY ON THE PHONE… LOTS OF MISSED CALLS AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF ME RIGHT NOW
[AuntieTeeTee] I miss Fresh what u say?
[Fresh] AND I NEED TO GET A HOLD OF A FEW PEOPLE TO CONFIRM SOME DETAILS I’M HEARING AND COMPARE NOTES
[para~investigator] fxmanaz Hi Randyman
[belabun] Someone capture this for reposting please
[Lady Sarah] Fresh probably all with the same questions
[beachdreaming777] Fresh can you PM really quick?
[dsatmhk] Scrolled too fast!
[sisterbreen] Fresh Fresh Fresh ty ty ty
[Elilail] Fresh lovely… well we look forward to hearing from you
[thebuzz] Fresh [Sushi] para~investigator hello and thank you very much
[starjump123] YAY for Fresh
[Fresh] I WAS TOLD AT THE END OF THIS CALL THAT I SHOULD COME TO CHAT AND GET YA’LL EXCITED FOR THE RV – ALMOST DIRECT QUOTE
[DINARHOPES] Fresh thanks bunches now i feel better
[AMAC0910] Fresh Thx Fresh… We needed that this afternoon.
[dsatmhk] Thank you Fresh!!!
[starjump123] oooOOooo thanks
[AuntieTeeTee] what Fresh say?
[Elilail] okay… so Fresh says someone told him the RV may happen today
[Elilail] let’s make on a bet on how long it is before Okie steals the intel
[Sushi] Fresh Fresh thank you
[anthonlcs] Fresh How good is the source
[AuntieTeeTee] Elilail 5 min
[AZGhostHunter] AuntieTeeTee he said go to the beach today, cuz you could be busy tomorrow
[dsatmhk] Where should we watch? Forex best?
[AuntieTeeTee] AZ I at beach already!
[Fresh] anthonlcs I WOULDN’T COME ON CHAT AND SHARE IF I DIDN’T THINK IT WAS GOOD… IT’S BEEN A WEEK OR TWO SINCE MY BLOOD GOT PUMPING THINKING THIS RV IS POSSIBLY ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND THEN I GET A CALL LIKE THIS… IT MAKES SENSE TO ME WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE SEEING COME TOGETHER ALL AT ONCE!
[templejc] Cool
[anthonlcs] Fresh awesome thanks
[starjump123] Fresh fresh he’s our man           



That's right!  He was calling the RV back in October like a total douche.  Remember what I said about dinar dealers, dinar gurus, and dinar site owners all working together in "Connecting the Dots"?  Well this guy also owns a site, also does the intel thing, and also runs a Dinar Corp ad.  Coincidence?  You tell me.

Next observation is this guy Lee.  He says he lost $15,000 in reserves buying from another dinar dealer.  HOLY CRAP!!!  Dude!  OMG!!!  Wake up!  Unfortunately Lee's story is all too common.  Many people got pumped into believing that the RV was about to happen and bought on reserves only to lose their deposit when they couldn't pay off the balance.  What's puzzling to me is that some of these people are still buying on reserve only now they're doing "guaranteed", "secured", or "safe" reserve purchases.  Haven't they learned anything more than that?  There's nothing safe about investing in the dinar.  There's only risky and riskier.

My final observation is Beverly at the end.  IMO "Sam" should fire Ivy and hire her.  I'd buy ameros from that babe.  Okay, that's not really relevant but hey, I'm a guy.
 
8/23/12  UPDATE!!!  Somebody did a remix of this video.  Check it out.








19 comments:

  1. For a long time I’ve postulated that a lot of these guys are just “useful idiots”, puppets that are being worked by dinar dealers. How many times does the guy say “I was told”, and then these two lines.

    “I’M GOING TO BE BUSY ON THE PHONE… LOTS OF MISSED CALLS AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF ME RIGHT NOW”

    “I WAS TOLD AT THE END OF THIS CALL THAT I SHOULD COME TO CHAT AND GET YA’LL EXCITED FOR THE RV – ALMOST DIRECT QUOTE”

    Answer me this. Would a legit contact with knowledge of the dinar really tell him “go to chat and get Ya’ll excited for the RV”
    Seriously????
    Also… isn’t there another pumper/guru who always uses the term Ya’ll.

    I wonder just how hard would it be to pretend to be an in the know contact and feed all these guys some good dinar info?

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    1. Those days of dealers feeding gurus false info are more than likely done. Those gurus in the game now are all making up their lies. Not one has contacts. Not one is giving info they heard. They are all making it up. Believe that. Many have seem how much money is to be made. Why do you think so many dinar sites have branched out. Their day is coming though.

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    2. we never agree, but i have to agree with you on this one. i do have middle eastern friends with heavy eco backgrounds. they have been wrong a dozen times or so, as well as i have relaying the info i heard. that why now i keep my mouth shut about what i hear. the new batch of "guru's" are completely idiotic, if you read what they write, its obvious they completely make it all up, or can't comprehend what they read like kap-bondlady.
      all the articles that come out now are l.o.p articles, and reading them any other way is only fooling themselves. all i ever got was a computer when mine was down for chatting it up in chatrooms, i think the whole doing this for money thing took a bad turn when someone starting selling goods on the internet, cups, shirts,tampons, lol now that was sleezy.
      i dont read the rumor sections much anymore, but when i do i feel like i need a shower after. i personally feel that it will rv, infact in my head it is a lock, but some take the lying to far... bash away

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    3. Sonny. These "middle eastern friends with heavy eco backgrounds"... where these people you knew before getting involved in the dinar? Have you ever met these "friends"?

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    4. yes, i have known them for years before investing, they recommended that i get in to the investment.

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  2. That video is pretty funny. Some of these people need this rv to happen so they can buy some teeth

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  3. FOLKS THERE WILL BE NO RV......

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    1. Who here is saying there will be?

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    2. For all the folks who pop in here thinking there will be.....

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    3. i do think its a lock, that is my opinion, i still do not like the fact that all of these guys make a joke out of this investment, the day to day rv lies made this investment a joke.

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    4. But you're OK with the day to day lies of Adam Montana?

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    5. i go on dv as much as you do with your 50th username now. wake up...

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    6. Oh Sonny, typical pumper. Always stretching the truth and over-inflating the numbers.

      First, I haven't been on your hack for a website in over 2 months, literally. Second, I have created a grand total of two (two = 2, just in case I confused you there) usernames on your hack for a website, one of which was banned because your life partner, Adam Montana, isn't too fond of people showing other members just how stupid he is. I can't say that I blame your life partner for getting upset that he's been proven to be wrong on pretty much everything he says. It would upset me as well. Thankfully I don't have to deal with that because I'm rarely wrong.

      My original question was merely an observation that you don't seem to mind that Adam Montana lies daily, and in some ways you help to perpetuate those lies, but you oddly take offense when other gurus lie. If the other guru's lying bothers you, I would suggest that you build a website for them too, and perhaps that would make you feel better about it.

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  4. The people in the Video. Aren't they just random people from all over the US? How did they all get to this same location to film this vid? Did the dealer fly them all to one location?

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    1. It's hard to say without having more info, but my guess is that they're all from the southeastern US. I did a search on Derek Hogarty and he's in S. Carolina. I suspect that Fresh is in the Atlanta area (I was told that he and Ivy were buds at People's Dinar) so there's a good chance that all of them are within driving distance of Atlanta where Ivy lives. Ivy's interview with BGG was in Atlanta so I'm assuming that this was done in the same location. Ivy's background is in video production so I'm guessing that he put this hairbrained project together. He probably just had Dinar Corp spring for the gas, food, and maybe a hotel.

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  5. wow, another great post sam. i used to be a mod at pi. but quit because i just couldn't stand nor stomach just how "full of himself" fresh was .... just nauseating. so i just left silently without any notice. my eyes are really starting to open up to the truth and possibility that this dinar thing is really a huge internet marketing scam. i'm just sick over this... i don't know what has made me sicker watching the video or finally REALLY waking up to what is going on in this community. also, why is a person who can't take care of there teeth (personal hygiene) considered an authority??? amazing.

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    1. also pretty funny that robin greyhead and her toothless friend used to ban scads of people from PD for going to PI; and now they claim to have been at PI for years.

      The only positive I see in this is that they must have eventually seen the truth about SteveI being a complete psycopath. That means they are possibly prone to gradually accepting the truth about this impending LOP as well, which I had heated arguments with them both about during my very short stint as a mod at PD.

      I wont be surprised to someday see naples witch on one of these videos talking about how great PI is etc...

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