Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Kicked Off PTR

I just got this in an email.  Looks like the natives are getting restless at PTR.  The only thing I would add to this is that Dan has been doing this for years, not months. 

-Sam


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Dan - Since my post was up less than 5 minutes and I was permanently banned for posting your own words (AKA lies), I wanted to make sure you got to read it. This only confirms that PTR and the Dinar RV is a complete scam and that your 2011 Dinar Douche Bag of the Year award was well deserved. As for being banned from PTR. It isn't significantly better than being banned from a leper colony; plus you don't get to steal $15/month from me any more. I didn't just go out in a blaze of glory (see attachment). I went out in a blaze of honesty. Something you can't even comprehend.


DinarDoucheBags: Feel free to post this on your site.

BCC-ers: PASS IT ON TO ALL PTR/DAN VICTIMS & PLASTER THIS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!


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PTR 9-23-13
Dan-“Had a challenging three or four days. I think a lot of our economy is that way. We could go into the end of the month where we don’t see the rv…what does it mean if it doesn’t happen this month? I believe it will occur before the end of the month.

Gary- “We are coming to a CRITICAL WEEK right now. Critical. There are a number of people who are key experts from dr. todd to the imf all looking and saying we can see a recovery, a global GDP of 2.8%, or 3%, IF the money gets into system in next three months.”

PTR 10-30-13
Gary- If we look we can see where commitments have been made and in one of the meetings were told leadership acknowledged they had approved triggering of the GCR. The conversation that was released in was when they said where is the money coming from, they said because we have approved the GCR. So lot of good things saying we’re coming to the conclusion of this.

PTR 11-4-13
Gary- We still believe we’re on top of this. Right on top of this.  Dan- I believe we don’t have to be in a great place. I still believe we are within a week to 10 days of this. Believe we’re still in a very good position.

PTR 11-18-13
Gay- This weekend a major leader got back from meetings overseas (Christine Legarde head of the IMF) and had a meeting with UST to trigger transactions with banks and get things moving this week. Going to be an exciting week to see how things play out.

Dan- my guys are saying the same things. Gary- They’re prepared and everybody wants it done
PTR 11-25-13
Dan-  If not done by Christmas we’re looking at a world situation we have not seen in my lifetime.
PTR 11-29-13
Gary- Our own leadership was causing some of delay and is critically in need of it, so everybody’s in a panic mode. Dan- will be surprised if it doesn’t happen in next two weeks. @39-40 minutes into the tape.

PTR 12-9-13
Gary…reality is on Friday trying to share with you all positive things without being overly positive. Over weekend, I did hear a couple people, one a priest, in charge of large funds and he was excited talking about the GCR and when it triggered the benefits it would bring. News from behind scenes is absolutely positive.

12-18-13
Gary says 60-40 in favor of believing this will happen before the 28th but still notes most of the influential managers are gone as of last Friday. I believe they are looking at having this thing happen this month so the resources for the budget are there.

PTR 12-19-13
Gary -The people we are working with are excited because they see themselves at the end of the process.
PTR 12-24-13
Dan quotes Abe. I really believe this will be in the middle of January-Abe. Dan-Because it went this long, it will be mid-jan, by the end of Jan. They absolutely, positively are as close as you can be to this without actually being in the room.

PTR 1-1-14
Dan- “Two days ago prosecutors issued orders to have M arrested. More than rumors. He’s in some hot water.” The members of parliament who are resigning are doing so because they have seen the orders that have been issued. They’re turning up the heat on M and his party. I believe he’s got to jump at this point. Also fits into the timelines we’ve talked about and what we will see immediately in the banks and things within the next two weeks here. And this is what Abraham said I don’t believe we can get much further than the first couple weeks of this month because of what’s going to be exposed is going to start flipping the switches on this other stuff

PTR 1-14-14
Dan...I don'’ expect to see the rv this week or even next Monday. I do believe it’s this month, but don’t think we’ll get to Feb. first. 

PTR 2-4-14 Gary- "We’re looking at this week, that’s why Dan is excited.  I don’t know how to be any more clearer than that.”

PTR 2-7-14
Dan…37;32 "all the sheets are going to come off all the heads and I mean that in the right way. We’ve all been masked you guys think you know who we are you’re gonna see when it revalues itself within days if not hours but no longer than a week you’ll see who’s who.”



Dan Atkinson
a.k.a. "Checkmate"
If this embarrasses Dan or Gary, so be it. It should. The fact is, the constant use of phrases like "the news is positive", "things are moving forward", "we’re close", and my favorite "we just don't see this going into November, December, January, February" (or as I call it the month dujour) have been regurgitated call after call since I became a paying member in September 2013.



As a member of PTR we pay money for this information. I suspect that is why many of us are here. Consequently, it’s only fair to hold people accountable for the information they provide, is it not?


Other than the constant hype, which you can clearly see has been going on for months,there are seldom specifics offered. No one ever says exactly what will happen if the money doesn’t get into the system other than serious consequences. That can pretty much mean almost anything from the price of gas goes up to stocks going down so discount it.

  
By the way, those serious consequences were supposed to happen early this year without an RV in the final three months of 2013. Didn’t happen, did it? Last I checked the stock market had it’s best day a few days ago and the economic indicators weren’t pointing toward recession. And from the January 14 call, what exactly was going to be exposed? Gary thought it had to happen on 12-18-13’s call so the resources for the budget were there. Not there, are they?

I recently cancelled my membership because I have concluded this is all a large hoax or scam which is putting member’s money into Dan’s pockets. It’s an elaborate hoax of stories designed to keep you shelling out $15 a month. It’s the same people telling you essentially the same things differently over and over. Just look no further than these notes, which I surmise will be taken down shortly in an effort to limit any honest discussion. BTW, when I requested a refund for the last 5 months based on the fact that I found no value in PTR's no intel intel and there is no post RV value until there is an RV (which is about as likely as the sun rising in the West), Dan refused to refund my money. This after stating publicly that he would "gladly" refund anyone's membership fees if they saw no value in PTR. So much for Dan's integrity. He must be pretty hard up if he can't afford to refund my $75.


The difference between Dan and Gary and Tony? Just a different brand of the same cr*p. Pedigreed poodle or no pedigree mutt. It's still a dog.

My guess. You will all still be here next year and the year after. Still waiting. Still being assured it’s real and about to happen. Still no RV in sight. Any reading of news.google.com with iraq typed into the search bar should quickly convince anyone that an impending RV is years away, not days, weeks or even months.

On a final note. I will be writing to my state representatives and the U.S. Attorney. Not to bring about the RV (that isn't), but to encourage them to bring an end to this scam by bringing an end to the dealers and forums that are preying on trusting people, taking their hard-earned money and laughing all the way to the bank at our  (your) expense.

Victoria Torok



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36 comments:

  1. It is true that there will be people who become millionaires as a result of the Iraqi dinar. But, as this e-mail confirms, it won't be the speculators. It will be the web site operators, dealers and their apologists. If that isn't painfully obvious to people, perhaps they deserve to be fleeced.

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  2. i just got banned from DV lol when they are faced with truth they ban people at all costs here are the pics

    i got banned for calling a DV member stupid but if you go back and read the thread i never called anyone stupid its just the title of the news headline. i am now on a mission to destroy and annihilate anyone who things the dinar will make them millionairs are anyone who believes in the dinar. when i mean destroy and annihilate i mean with tons of links or documents.i will keep posting the same stuff over and over again on the whole web

    http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo132/alan_coaks_3/banned1.jpg

    http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo132/alan_coaks_3/banned.jpg

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    1. That was a hilarious post. Even more so was Markinsa's response. LOL... I don't believe it was the title of the post that got you yanked but the Congressman's link that got Markinsa's panties in a wadded bunch. Personally that is great evidence to provide the US Attorney as to them attempting to hide the truth from the "suckers".

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    2. ZACH LEWON JOIN ME ON TWITTER AND OPEN THE EYES OF TONY TURDS SHEEPLE IVE OPENED ABOUT 20 EYES THE HASHTAG #WEARETHEPEOPLE TNTTONY COME JOIN ME

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    3. Join the club. Have been banned 4 times in total...

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  3. Technically speaking, if you own millions of dinars you are a "MILLIONAIRE", an IRAQI millionaire. LOL!!! However, once you sell that camel crack paper you are back to being non-wealthy. That's about as wealthy or "millionaire-ish" you'll ever be in this scam.

    It's a pathetic play on words by these friggin' retarded gurus. SMH...

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  4. "The only thing I would add to this is that Dan has been doing this for years, not months."

    Indeed Sam:-

    "Rock-solid intel" from "PTR Dan":-

    2/12/2011 - "Check for the CBI to update tomorrow. The team has all heard dates and rates and they are all good You will not be disappointed I am giving it to you real no bull We have been told it could be tonight at the earliest but everytime we say that we have to wait a few more days."

    4-1-2011 - "People’s Talk Radio intel is coming from the highest of highest sources…we are privileged to be able to get this info…all is done…days away…would be shocked and blown away if rate LOWER than $3.22."

    5-4-2011 - "They said [Dan’s HIGHLY trusted currency trader contacts] everything looks really good. They don’t think tonight tomorrow or next day…They said they have some of the strongest sources for intel."

    1-9-2012 - "I think it will be the CBI, Forex, Banks, etc. all at once. I personally think we will see it tomorrow not today. Large banking things do not normally happen on Fridays or Mondays… the rate has nothing to do with the GBP only tied to the USD…We now know this is an hourly event."


    2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, etc. Same failed pumping over & over, year after year.

    Many, many more from:-
    http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.co.uk/p/whatd-i-say.html

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    1. I just love this line,

      "We have been told it could be tonight at the earliest but everytime we say that we have to wait a few more days".

      Does that idiot not realize what he said? "EVERY time we say that we have to wait a few more days" ?????? A few more days and then WHAT???? Is he saying we had to wait a few more days every time it RVed? Lol!

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  5. Here is the real humor in all this. Dan and Gary spend a lot of time complaining about what a phony Tony is and how he has no real intel sources. Tony is a fraud but at least he doesnt charge people for it. Dan and Gary and PTR charge $15 a month for the privledge of being told three times a week we're this close, it's happen to happen, we are on top of this. The other question here is did all those people that Dan charged $30 for a reserved ticket to the post RV event in San Francisco ever get refunds? If this womans experience is any indication I am guessing not. Lady the fact you're post was up only five minutes underlines what frauds these PTR guys are. Too bad the members aren't as smart as you are.

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  6. DV even went as far as banning my IP address... lol. Pretty sad to think that that will keep me away!

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    1. There are ways around that which would drive them ballistic banning ip addresses. ;-)

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  7. Rumor Alert Update: The next rumor to continue to keep the blind, faithful, ignorant, and idiotic dinar investors interested is the upcoming invasion of Iran. This will most likely occur tomorrow. If not tomorrow then it will happen this Sunday! The news programs will be talking about this imaginary war. I expect that the above rumor will fall apart within about a year or so and we will then be invading North Korea... or Canada. PFFFFFFFFFFFFRRRRR. I am literally astonished to see people with access to the internet, who are obviously capable of reading an invoice and signing their names, are still completely sold on this idiotic scheme!

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  8. and to add to all that, here we have poppy3 with more of his feel good statements. he has been talking BS for years along with that moron BGG. this BS is never ending. what I would like to know is WHY the FBI or any other entity hasn't put a lid on all this yet? these story tellers ARE guilty of internet fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud. I think with all the posts all over the net their is much more than sufficient evidence to pursue charges against all of them for this huge scam!

    Poppy3 - WE CAN SEE THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY MOVE THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN THE LAST MONTH HAS BEEN POSITIVE AND ALL RELATED TO THEIR FINANCE AND WE HAVE EVEN SEEN SIGNS THAT MALIKI AND ALL INVOLVED ARE POSITIONING TO MAKE THE RV HAPPEN. THE BIG QUESTION IS THE TIMING. MALIKI FOR SURE WILL NEED THE RV…HE WILL NEED IT IN TIME TO MAKE SOME DIFFERENCE FOR THE PEOPLE BEFORE HE CAN GAIN SOME FAVOR WITH THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ.

    I EXPECT TO SEE OUR REWARDS VERY SOON. …BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL ELECTIONS ARE SOME 70 DAYS LEFT AND I BELIEVE MALIKI NEEDS OVER HALF THIS TO GAIN BENEFIT FROM IT. IF HE DOESN’T ALLOW IT AND WAITS AND LOOSES THEN THE NEW PM WILL ACT VERY QUICKLY TO START HIS REIGN OFF WELL AND SHOW HE IS GOING TO MOVE IRAQ INTO THE WORLD AS A FINANCIAL LEADER. WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE AND ARE VERY SHORT ON OUR WAIT NOW.

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  9. Dontlop is STILL yapping about the Swiss Dinar. Lol.....his pointless ramblings about it on every thread is a telling sign of his desperation to divert attention away from the obvious impossibility of the IQD massive RV. He should go back to roads and bridges backing the Dinar. I doubt anyone is even reading his rambles anymore. They just scroll through to relevant posts.

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  10. I have been noticing more and more people are not responding or posting positively on some of these sites. Hoping this scam is running it's course. If you have enough documentation and I know you all do....I would definitely take it to the State AG. Also...for those of you that want. If they charged your credit card for those monthly fees. You can dispute them with the bank and get it refunded back. They will go 6-12 months back at most.

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    1. "If they charged your credit card for those monthly fees. You can dispute them with the bank and get it refunded back. They will go 6-12 months back at most."

      This is actually an excellent point. If you did a chargeback on your credit-card the guru's would shriek and wail a load of empty threats but it's highly unlikely they'd be able to get it reversed as the "product" they're selling simply isn't real.

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  11. I found this quite humorous. An individual posted on dinar detectives they were banned from TNT's site and signed up there. Then a response from, one would assume a mod there, Rebel:

    Truth Seeker: Welcome to this site. You won't get banned here for speaking your piece as long as you don't get too over the top. They obviously did you a big favor by banning you. The further away from Tony Baloney, the better off you will be.

    Now when they say, "you won't get banned here for speaking your piece...." what they mean is, don't speak against Kaperoni and his float theory or his translations of articles. Just to clarify that.

    For Kap: BTW it's been a few weeks. I'm still waiting for those "docs".

    For everyone else: And I found this to be very intetesting, did you know in some states it is illegal to threaten an individual with legal action snd NOT follow through? Interesting indeed. In case anyone runs across this scenario in the future.

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    1. yeah that moron BGG has threatened me with legal action about a year or so ago. i laughed and told him well, you cant sue the truth...its more than a year later and no lawsuit. he wouldn't dare even try it.

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  12. I sure wish I was still in the leg breaking business because I'd be doing really well right about now!!! Because cracking skulls is worthless with these Freakin' Mamalukes cause all you'd get is hot air comin' out of those empty buckets..... SMH... Here you have Frankie the Bible Burping Bozo and his clan spouting more crap... This is posted on Dinar RecRaps..

    http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/02/wednesday-night-dinar-chatter12.html

    Wednesday Night Dinar Chatter

    02/12/2014

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    Stage3Alpha”

    BREAKING NEWS FROM FRANK 26 LIVE CALL

    Posted by EXOGEN on February 12, 2014 at 8:29pm

    BREAKING NEWS

    Iraq TV said today at 1PM that all physical currency has to be in the bank...this will immediately cause an increase in the demand of the dinar raising its value. They are now in a race to implement their budget immediately.

    The dinar is now on the open market as of the 16th by the selling of government bonds. This will cause some type of RV just by supply and demand due to nobody having dinar for the auctions. They would then have to release the rate and break out the Lower Denominations

    LIVE FROM IRAQI TELEVISION Posted by EXOGEN on February 12, 2014

    On Iraq TV news tonight a large group of Parliament members demanded that the CBI reveal their plans for the RV and that a statement should be publicly issued immediately

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  13. Since dinarsme.com has published it I can say something about BBCtrending getting a hold of me and a few other people.A Cordelia is interested in the guru dinar scam and even got a hold of Tony and he talked about it on his morning call. He was talking about wondering what she wanted and got an email and said oh she wants to talk about my court case and then you could see he didn't know what to say lol. She wanted an interview with him but I have a feeling he didn't call her back.

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  14. "Al Qaeda group issues bills with images of bin Laden, WTC towers": http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/11/al-qaeda-group-issues-bills-images-bin-laden-wtc-t/

    Wow... we should all start investing in the "ISIL Dinar" of Iraq! RV is about to hit...

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  15. I see my prediction about Adam Montana is coming true. Truthfully, it wasn't a hard one to make. He continues to insist that Iraq is making "great progress", "There is positive news", "There are some important events on the horizon". Nothing changes with this guy. Yet, because he doesn't throw out speicific RV dates very often he's viewed as a reasonable (and truthful) clown. It's ridiculous. The guy has been saying the same thing for years! The guy has made dozens of predictions and prognostications about the RV (including dates and rates) and, of course, none of them have happened. But since he doesn't spew them out every other day, he's considered credible. This guy feeds his subscribers the same manure that Okie and Tony feed their subscribers. He just wraps it in a bow.

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  16. With all sincerity I ask , what do You think will logically become of The Iraqi Dinar notes ? ...Will they ever become worth anything more than bird Cage liner ?

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    1. My honest opinion is that it will remain at less than 1/10 of a penny until it is replaced in the redenomination that the CBI has announced. If they don't RD it's possible that the IQD will increase by 1 or 2% a year for the next 20 years. Hardly worth waiting for IMO.

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    2. They are worth more than that now. Don't fool yourself. A 25000 dinar notes is worth approximately $21. A 1000 dinar note is worth approximately 85 cents. A single dinar, of course, is worth very little but it doesn't matter because there is 1 dinar note. If someone went out to eat and the cost was the equivalent to $25, he could simply pay with a 25000 dinar note and 10000 dinar note. It's not as though Iraqis are walking around with wallets stuffed with 1 dinar notes. I suspect Iraqis don't carry around many more notes than Americans. The only difference is, they have more zeros on them.

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    3. Ben if you're motive in asking is consideration of what you should do with any you own I doubt your options will get better than they are today and they could get much worse. If Iraq pulls the trigger on the RD that at the very least has to greatly reduce buyers and greatly increase sellers so the price you can get for IQD will only go down. I doubt there will be any sort of closed border aspect to the RD, but it is possible and if that should happen then the price would really drop, perhaps to 0. So even looking at such a decision only as a means to minimize losses (knowing there can be no profit), I can't see how it makes sense to hold. It might not get worse, but if it can't get better and CAN get worse, its time to sell.

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    4. Ben, with all sincerity. Do you normally line your birdcage with $20 bills?
      I have never understood this "worthless currency" claim. As others have pointed out. Iraq's currency is structured almost exactly like ours. They have a 25K, 10k, 5k, and 1k note. They hold basically the same value as our 20,10,5, and 1 dollar notes.
      Iraq has about $34 billion worth of currency in circulation.
      Kuwait, with their much envied and beloved $3 exchange rate, has about $5.5 billion in circulation.
      Iraq's "worthless" currency is 6 times more valuable than Kuwait's "precious" currency.

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    5. @DaveD - Seriously? If I buy a newspaper for $1 it does not mean I can trade it back to the publisher for $1, or even $.50. Out of country, the Iraqi Dinar only has the value that some private party is willing to purchase it for. At the current "dealer" buyback rates, I think that makes the 1K Dinar note worth about $.80, at most. 20% is a big deal when you multiply it by the quantity some of these folks hold.

      Off topic, I really want the "investors" to consider the human cost of their greed. The Guru's, and many Dinar-Believer forum participants speak about the people of Iraq in less than human terms, as a commodity, if you will. It's beyond sickening. "Dancing in the streets" and other such BS, insinuating the people (people like you and me) in Iraq are too stupid to understand a re-denomination, that kind of thing. I used to feel sorry for the elderly and naive that got suck into this, but, now I am thinking that they are going to reap what they have sewn. Shame on them.

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    6. RevMrBlack.
      I'm not sure the point you are trying to make and how it pertains to my post.

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    7. I think RevMrBlack was addressing the fact that the dinar doesn't hold the same value outside of Iraq as it does inside of Iraq while DaveD is addressing the question asked by Ben about the dinar being worthless. Both valid points.

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    8. Yeah Sam, I figured that's basically what he was saying and that we were in agreement that the dinar is poo. Just wasn't sure how it related to my post.

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  17. FS4Enthusiast response to one of Dontlops total desperation panicking "anti" redenomination articles..........



    Whether or not the dinar lops is immaterial to the RV.  It doesn't make a difference either way.  The dinar RVing to 86 cents without a lop is exactly as likely as the dinar lopping to 86 cents an then RVing to $860, because they both result in precisely the same thing: a money supply worth 1,000x what it should be. The only thing that a lop would really change with regard to anything is that 99% of dinarians would probably finally realize that the RV is never going to happen.  I'd say 100%, but I'm sure a few baboons would still be hanging around dinar forums talking about how its all smoke and mirrors and that their 25,000 notes will be honored and they'll probably be paying $399 fees to gurus for legal fees so they can get in on a lawsuit against the IMF/GOI/CBI/Rothschilds/Obama/Maliki/Space aliens/God/the Illuminati/white hats/red dragons/black snakes/whoever for screwing them out of their 100,000% profits.

    Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/172155-feb-update/page-14#ixzz2tEvnqgFR


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

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  18. "...an then RVing to $860..."

    This bumbling fool doesn't realize or maybe he's that much of a lost scumbag quoting the current price of 1 million dinar at your local dinar dealer of $860. When pinheads like that make these outrageous blatant stupid remarks it is a clear indication they are trying to let the masses know they are being scammed. If they continue to belief the trash then they are fair game.

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  19. Just a "heads up" to all, it looks like "TNT Tony" just had his "radio" calls shut down by the provider Blogtalkradio:-
    http://www.baghdadinvest.com/tnt-tony-blogtalkradio-finished/

    2014 is just getting better and better ;-)

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    1. Everyone is running for the hills and leaving the cockroaches homeless. ;-)

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  20. Victoria, my sympathies. Used to be a member of PTR long ago but I came to the same conclusion, that these guys are a bunch of scammers, just a bit more sophisticated than Tony by using people like this Dr. Todd and Abe character, but still the same message of you will get rich if you only listen to our intel and stay with us. A friend sent me the call they did this past Friday with this Abe who claimed we are in a depression. Apparently, Abe the financial genius hasn't yet figured out what is taught in 10 grade econ, that you have to have two consecutive quarters of negative growth to even qualify as a recession. All the people at PTR still lapping up this crap are as dumb as the bots on Tony's site if they believe this Abe guy who poses as some sort of person in the know with the RV. My friend added that Abe was also the guy telling people the RV would occur in mid-January or shortly thereafter as soon as the "bankers" got back. Well here it is, mid-to almost late February now. Wonder where that RV is PTR?

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