Consider for a moment the following:
In February of 2010 Breitling said that the RV is in the budget.
In February of 2011 somebody read a misprint of trillions as billions and concluded that it meant RV.
In February of 2012 there was again talk of the new rate in the budget.
Here's a few more links to browse.
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/02/breaking-news-from-fresh-at-peopleinvested-on-budget.html
http://www.dinar2u.com/iraqidinar/news.php?tab=detail&id=340
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/02/stevel-update-with-comments-post-from-peoples-dinar.html
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Q0sZz9AVV2EJ:iraqdinar.us/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D83%26t%3D1580+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (two-thirds of the way down)
The budget for 2014 doesn't contain any historic revaluation of the IQD. The rate in the budget is less than a tenth of a penny, just like it was last year and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that ..............................
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Just like clockwork, you can predict that the clowns will suggest the rate is in the budget every year. It never fails. It's one of the most reliable points of anticipation they have to look forward to every year. There also seems to be considerable hype right before ramaddan and right at the end of one year and beginning of the next year. Occassionally they get a special gift like last year when sanctions were removed from Iraq or a couple years ago when the dinar peg was changed slightly. Then they really ramp up the hype. Anything that moves people off dead center when it comes to buying dinar or web site subscriptions is all they need. But just like every other year, the budget will come and go, the exchange rate of the dinar won't change (because, of course, we know it is mathematically impossible) and the excuses will start to fly. Next year at this time it will be deja vu all over again. Put that on your list of surefire predictions, Sam.
ReplyDeleteIf I am correct Randy Koonce is thee or one of the pioneers of that "rate is in the budget" nonsense.
ReplyDeleteOne year it was Obama's birthday and then few months later it was Okie's birthday.Must've been the year of the "O's" birthdays.
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ReplyDeletePumping for Jesus I guess.
ReplyDeleteHere's an example of the kind of articles they base their presumptions on. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.youm7.com%2FNews.asp%3FNewsID%3D1196653%26SecID%3D24%26IssueID%3D0
ReplyDeleteOf course the article says nothing of the sort that is claimed (I got some other sites popping up from this link as well). The paragraph they are all a buzz over is
ReplyDelete"In an attempt by the Government to improve the Iraqi currency, intended to delete the three zeros is pricing exchange rate 1.16 against the dollar, the dinar would replace the State budget $ 172 billion dinars, or the equivalent of about $ 150 million, and the Government is preparing to implement this step by adopting a "new dinar" requesting an order from the Central Bank to raise its value gradually down to be equal to the dollar. "
So clearly that says the rate becomes 1.16 after they delete the zeros. Right, now its 1166 IQD per 1 USD and after a RD its 1.16 new Dinar to 1 USD. Then if they want they can raise the rate (fewer dinars to the dollar) to an even dollar which would put the IQD at an even 1/10th of a penny, but there is no reason to do so unless say inflation becomes an issue so I doubt such will occur. If it does, it will as the article said be a slow process (e.g. maybe a percent or so a year). Over time the CBI is increasing its reserves as well (from the spread on taking in USD oil revenue from the GOI and selling it back to importers), but this is a slow process.
Here's the problem jrg that the gurus gladly disseminate. They reverse those numbers and state 1 IQD will equate to 1.16 USD leading people to believe for the current notes because there will be no LOP!! There can't be a LOP if it means equal to the $. LOL... Then when a half witted individual catches on they claim it's a typo so they retain their royal guru position as always.
DeleteSometimes even the lopsters don't get it. Over at DV boomer11389 has hope for a small return.
ReplyDeletehttp://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/170121-bank-of-indonesia-says-stable-economy-key-to-successful-redenomination/page-2#ixzz2qj0tW3Cn
"i truly believe iraq will get its exchange rate to 1000 to 1 even the cbi gov PROMISED it would but we all know iraq they lag way behind. i have never seen them quote of any rate under 1000 to 1 as of this present date"
But here is the flaw. Even if Iraq were to raise the rate as much as possible, which is about to an even 1/10th of a penny or the 1000 IQD to 1 USD boomer mentions, banks that do not handle IQD now are I think unlikely to start doing so (ie. what changes in their eyes?). You will still have to cash out via the dealers who will charge you 20%. After an RD no one will be buying IQD so it will be 20% off the price the dealers get when they ship it back to Iraq, so you'll be lucky to get $800 per million, which is what you can get now. If Iraq does raise the rate this way it will likely take many more years, to end up at the rate you can get now. It is not actually very likely that Iraq will do raise the rate that far either as they will want some headroom in case inflation becomes a problem. Most of the articles talking about raising the rate to parity with the dollar are talking about the rate of the redenominated dinar at 0.86 as being close to 1.00 . So there is no reason not to sell ASAP. What ever your win/loss level is today on any IQD you hold, it will never improve and likely get worse.
I agree. Just as we paid the piper for everyone who touched the dinar prior to us receiving it, there will be a higher risk cost selling it back the closer it gets to RD or even outright civil war will shake many investors into selling, hopefully. I'm glad i was able to sell all of mine at a loss for $860/ million and run!!! Thanks to this site and John Jagerson it really solidified what I was feeling for the two yrs I held the camel crapola paper. There was a small hint of maybe at the beginning but never was I married to the idea of becoming wealthy because you just don't on currency unless you are a true "whale" of an investor (like a Trump wealthy-like) on established currencies who can dump huge money. Those who claim to be wealthy dinar investors and hang out in dinar forums are full of sheister. No one can get rich on $1k investment unless it's penny stock and shoots up to $400 overnight. But to date I am unaware of any stock in the history of wall street heard that happen.
Deletehere is more randy koonce garbage. he seems to be running out of excuses with this one! LOL common sense would tell anyone with a quarter of a brain that after like 10 times of being wrong the 11th and 12th times they will be wrong too.....whats the definition of insanity?? the dinar nut jobs certainly are insane but have allowed themselves to be driven insane! LOL
ReplyDeletethe idiots on dinar updates cling to every word this guy says as well as that idiot bgg and Pinocchio poppy
Randy Koonce ~ How are you makin it?? One of the things to go over is that fact that the IMF and UN have not been very forceful in making Iraq complete the things they agree upon. After such, the IMF in their urgency to get this RV done, gave Maliki more concessions. This creates a spoiled kid effect which Maliki does not need more of…I do not know it all – just because I have typed a email. Please use your own judgement on what is about to happen. I do feel strongly we are just about done…
If for some reason it does not go – do not be discouraged. We will see this thing through.
Again – if we get past Monday then give me at least a week before I can get the issues….Just pray for this weekend.
Check CBI.IQ
I am extremely hopeful at this time. ~ Randy Koonce
Randy is getting huge and is about to blow which is what he's probably referring too. He's eating the same ole poop he's been pumping to the community.
ReplyDeleteBtw isn't randy Koonce the douche who claims he's gonna open a bank post RV? I think he's referring more to partnering with dinar corp to pump dinar because he hasn't mentioned it anymore since he made that trip to Chicago to meet with Sam and his little douchie partner which was documented on the YouTube video.
ReplyDeleteWow serious desperation about Tony. I about pissed my pants LMAO reading this clip...
ReplyDelete"We know that Tony has recently been used by his info sources to put a Sting on corrupt politicians and their buddies. He may be being used now for the next phase of the Sting operation to catch the crooked bankers and their buddies."
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/01/news-rumors-and-opinions-saturday-morning.html#comments
Meanwhile in Iraq:
ReplyDeleteIn tense Baghdad, a wave of deadly blasts
The deadliest blast was caused by a car bomb that exploded near a Western-style mall in the western Mansour district, killing at least six people. At least 13 other people died in six other incidents across the city, Iraq's capital.
At least 74 people were wounded in the attacks -- six car bombs and one roadside bomb.
Earlier Saturday, at least one person was killed and 11 others were wounded when two explosive devices detonated in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, the city's police said.
The attack targeted a marketplace in the southern part of the city, police said.
Iraq has been engulfed in fighting and political instability in recent months. The United Nations said 2013 was the deadliest year in Iraq since 2008, with almost 8,000 people killed, most of them civilians. On Wednesday, at least 61 people were killed and scores wounded in the latest wave of attacks in the Iraqi capital and across the country.
Fears of all-out sectarian war have increased since violence broke out in Anbar province, where al Qaeda-backed militants and Iraq's security forces have been battling for control of Falluja and Ramadi.
The violence recalls the bloody fighting at the height of the Iraq war that nearly tore the country apart.
The good ole "the RVs in the budget" hype. LOL......every year like clock work.
ReplyDeleteLadyGracesDaddy will not shut up about the stupid HCL being part of this years budget. What happened to Chapter 7 being the key to the "RV"? I guess nothing happened SUDDENLY after they were released from Chapter 7 so the next hype event is the HCL. When nothing happens SUDDENLY after the HCL is past then LGD will find some other irrelevant event to keep his only hope at ever being rich alive. Poor guy. Its going to be a big let down when this years budget means nothing just like every years budget since massive RVs are not a real thing. Maybe someday he will SUDDENLY wake up to that reality.
Hey when is the Powerball drawing!? LOL
DeleteWhen I first bought dinar I believed these guys when they said Erbil needs to be signed, the HCL needs to be done, the sanctions lifted .... etc. Then I started researching revaluation and noticed that none of those things are ever a factor. In fact the IQD revalued dozens of times from 2006-2009 with none of those conditions met. It's just bait to lure in the newbies and keep them dangling.
DeleteInventing blockers for the RV not only keeps folks on the hook, but it adds an air of credibility since impossible things can not be blocked. Its a classic scam technique.
DeleteSam, DB is over on DV crying about you. Here's his post:
ReplyDeleteSam I am keeps deleting my posts so I am gonna post it here so people know where the gurus are getting their information about the budget with the rate 1.16. He obviously is into censorship and does not want to be shown up so here is the link
http://www.microsoft...ID=24&IssueID=0
Sorry Sam I am for debunking your latest post which you have not done your research properly on.
As you can see Sam I am the gurus have not just made this up
Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/user/43314-dinarbeleiver/#ixzz2qogu2RQb
Have fun with this lol
Lopster stews response:
DeleteAre you serious. From your link:
"In an attempt by the Government to improve the Iraqi currency, intended to delete the three zeros is pricing exchange rate 1.16 against the dollar"
That's talking about redenominating, lopping.
Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/168913-jay-adkisson-from-forbesend-of-2013-dinar-update/page-32#ixzz2qoiAO500
As I said before, this guy is an idiot and clearly cannot comprehend anything he posts. I don't even think DB reads it. The guy us a mental case.
DB is just a troll. Simple as that. Can't get his way so he whines. Mommy and daddy didn't hug him enough.
DeleteI posted DB's link just so that he couldn't say I was censoring him, but he said it anyway. Oh well. As I said before, he's got issues.
DeleteSo here goes numb nuts millionday spewing garbage at her site. Talk about clueless?? LOL
ReplyDeleteSnippet from dinar Recraps
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/01/millionday-news-comments-with-members.html#comments
[TNvolunteer] Hopefully that does not mean a redenomination nor a LOP
[millionday] risk not that article that i had but i saw myself on iraqi television that finance is saying that they dont think they are ready --- CBI has the power and they stated that they are ready
[millionday] i would like to comment on TNvolunteer
[h-spot] I thought a redenomination is what we want?
[millionday] great to see you hun and the thing i wanted to say was that a redenomination is what is going to happen in the country and let me expand on this
[millionday] in country when the currency is resulted by the new rate and new prices as in 5,10,25,50,100,250,500,1000--- that is what we want because
[millionday] the only thing that will cause the prices to change so that they need those amounts of currency is a change in what they spend to develop and market at new exchange rates with the globe
[millionday] the change in what amount or value they need on their tender is done by redenominating as in removing the three zeros smile
[h-spot] on xe.com, everyone gets scared when it said iraq is planning to redenominate. But that is what we want to happen.
Continued... This is beyond pathetic!
Delete[millionday] the USD is what IQD is expected to be paired with --- we saw and also have seen in ink -- CBI state they are ready to remove the three zeros and also change out the currency so
[millionday] US dollar USD 1166.000 1164.000
Euro EUR 1586.460 1585.666
British pound GBP 1914.805 1913.848
Canadian dollar CAD 1066.496 1065.963
Swiss franc CHF 1285.273 1284.631
Swedish krona SEK 180.565 180.475
Norwegian krone NOK 190.716 190.621
Danish krone DKK 212.607 212.501
Japanese yen JPY 11.198 11.192
Special Drawing Rights SDR 1789.064 1788.169
[millionday] ONLY THE USD HAS THREE ZEROS ----so i find the calculations of the IQD rates very interesting
[Rockin'RV] 1:1?
[ROBINREDHED] but they all have 3 placeholders
[tbob] nope very interesting
[tourman] Rockin'RV 1.16
quicktolegit96] i agree, nice observation!!!
[dlherm] they all have 3 decimals
[tbob] hmmmm what could you mean millionday?
[dlherm] normally they only have 2!
[tbob] hmmmm what could you mean millionday?
[Rockin'RV] Tourman. Tx
[dovi] hmmmmmmm
[millionday] I also noticed that they are not on the other side
[tbob] arabic side whoo hooo
[quicktolegit96] arabic side?
[millionday] hmmmm -- i just find it so interesting and also the program rates along with added info as well
[millionday] the home rates are very intriguing too to me -- adding info would let us know in my opinion that of course they are not removing it or all of the other strange things people said as a result of the rates being gone when they were down
I left this paragraph out accidentally which is important to understand why people are frazzled with MD's statement. This paragraph precedes the last post above. Btw, I also listed last post as continued but it is not from the same thread or post on recaps which I provided link. Here is the actual link for this diarrhea of the mouth from millionday....
Deletehttp://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/01/millionday-news-comments-with-members-part-2.html#comments
" [millionday] the strategic relations between the US of A and Iraq are documented on the strategic framework agreement so this visit is one that we should all attend and of course listen to every word carefully – smile -- i find this interesting and i tell you why".
Since millionday is a woman I don't know that "numb nuts" is appropriate but your point is valid. As you can see her followers are quite confused. [h-spot] I thought a redenomination is what we want? More evidence to support my post Don't Listen to Gurus.
DeleteIt was a figure of speech in that she has the cojones / man jewel to make such stupid statements.
DeleteOne of the stranger aspects of this is that the faithful will respond positively even when their guru of choice is spewing incomprehensible gibberish. MD's comments do not rise to the level of lies or twisting facts as its not even meaningful english. I can understand folks being taken in by a smooth talking conman (or woman) but I hadn't expected folks to be so full of Koolaid that random sentence fragments would do the trick. Yet you see this happening quite a lot.
DeleteQuote, [I hadn't expected folks to be so full of Koolaid that random sentence fragments would do the trick. Yet you see this happening quite a lot]
DeleteSimple, it's an old con trick, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit"!
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ReplyDeleteLMAO!!! You can't be serious?? Basically it's a case of least of the evils with you huh?!! LOL.. Unbelieveable. Pick your poison DinarBeliever. I guess you're easily impressed by anyone that can put two letters together R+V.
DeleteCruzer you just don't get it, ya see Tony and Okie are serious crackpots but Millionday is only seriously wacko! Big difference there doncha know! Lol!
DeleteDB the very fact that you would think someone like that, who is totally clueless and nothing but a wacko pumper, shows just how hopeless you are! That person is a total WACKO who spouts nothing but nonsense, does it not mean a thing to you that people like that are the only ones that support this so-called "RV"? Man you are in serious need of help for your obvious mental issues and I do not mean that in a derogatory manner, I'm serious!
ReplyDeleteDB is worthless. He's over on DV crying about censorship on here which is a lie. He clearly has ZERO understanding of anything and doesn't even read the crap he posts. He sees a word or two and takes it completely out of context. The guy is a complete nut job and gets laughed at everywhere he posts. Dude is a loser just like everyone he worships in the dinar community.
DeleteJust for the record Sam deleted my posts and I posted a link to a news site where I pointed an example of where the gurus get their rate for the 2014 budget. He then went and posted that same link. Yes I was pissed and posted on dinar vets but I feel I have a right to attempt to debunk Sam's info as well.
ReplyDeleteYou have no rights here, DB. You are guilty of trolling. Your comments are only allowed because I, the benevolent dictator of this blog, see fit to allow them in my mercy. And for the record, yes I posted your stupid link even though I deleted your comments so there was no censorship. As the others have pointed out the article you linked to proved the opposite of the point that you are trying to make. And I never said that the gurus are making stuff up about this. I said they're always wrong, and they are. I provided several links to prove that.
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ReplyDelete1164 -> 3-zero's lopped = 1.16. Gee, what a coincidence!
DeleteYet again all you're doing is humiliating yourself by posting articles openly describing a lop then making a complete fool of yourself pretending it's some stupid 100,000% RV. That's probably why you keep getting comments deleted - stupid trolling by posting the same lies over & over again after they've been repeatedly explained to you over & over again...
If you would read the posts above you will see that 1.16 is not $1.16 USD to 1 IQD, but is 1.16 NEW dinar (post RD dinar) to 1 USD. i.e. its just 1000x the current rate, which is exactly how a RD works. The link you offered (that Sam posted) clearly says "delete the zeros".
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ReplyDeleteSo you believe the part of the sentence that says the rate will be 1.16 dinar to 1 USD, but not the part of the very same sentence that says this rate will be after they "delete the zeros". Come on, really? Of course it has been said many times, there are many RD aka LOP aka "delete the zeros" articles.
Deletep.s.
Sam, I meant to say a while back that the numeric only captchas are MUCH nicer and easier to use!
Here is some of what Tlar said. His koolaid drinkers defend it by saying there are articles out there supporting him.
ReplyDeleteBIS can't use their currency until they declare Article VIII for international settlements. No body will accept Iraq's toilet paper which is only good in their own country. The WTO will not let them in as a permanent member with the currency as it is. The tarrifs will be inflationary. " " The budget is written at 1.16 dinars per US dollar " " but will have to be refigured again. Without a currency their economy and all the press recently touting about Iraq's economical rebirth in 2014 and the explotion of a free market, will again be wrong. The economy will continue to be stagnant unless they introduce the new Iraqi dinar internationally.
Of course NO ONE can produce this supposed mystery ...... "budget written at 1.16 dinars per US dollar."
That's because the budget has not been published in the Iraqi gazette
DeleteWhat will your and your fellow koolaid drinkers excuse be after the budget has been published in the Iraqi Gazette and it is NOT "written at 1.16 dinars per US dollar." ?
DeleteWeatherford - Dinarbeliever and friends will complain that it isn't posted in the NY Times and US Treasury has not approved it so Obama once again held up the RV. Then again it could be Hillary Clinton who is considering running for President in 2016 and is asking Iraq to hold off until she's in office to get the credit she didn't want George Bush to get. Something stupid like that.
DeleteOf course other full WTO members like South Korea have an exchange rate even lower than Iraq's.
ReplyDeleteDB, do you somehow enjoy looking stupid? SERIOUSLY man take a look at what you are posting! EVERY SINGLE link you post debunks what you are saying and you seem to think it somehow supports it! Do you just somehow see only the words you want to see in an article and simply blank out the rest?
ReplyDeleteI think DinarBeliever laughs everytime he knowingly posts something stupid to rile up the forum. He knows he's trolling and enjoys controversy so long as he's annoying people. Just watch his pattern. Post something stupid and sit back to watch the comments role in. Then he'll post something completely off the wall and disappear. That behavior seems to be his method for enjoyment.
DeleteWell it's backfiring on him because people are not getting riled they're simply laughing at him, how anyone could enjoy making themselves look like a total moron and have people think they're idiotic is hard to understand. Not only that but his BS posts have been a good platform to debunk some popular myths that some people actually do believe and there's a lot more people than DB reads these posts, apparently it's in the thousands now if I understand correctly, so in that sense he actually is helping to debunk this nonsense. Only a few weeks ago he had a following over on DV and got praise from some members for some of his posts but now he hardly gets any response at all, seems some folks who once respected him have now abandoned him after seeing him for what he really is.
DeleteWhat are your views on the global currency reset found this article
ReplyDeletehttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/15/davos-world-economic-forum-pre-event-presser/4487561/
Now that is just a blatant lie DB. The article does not contain the words "global currency", just "reset". Of course the founder of the Davos conference would like the world to change the way it does things, i.e. wars, poverty, climate change, etc. to actually solve problems. That is the "reset" he is talking about, not the goofy GCR the gurus claim, which of course does not exist.
DeleteBe honest, did you actually read the article, or are you just reposting from some guru site that made this same bogus claim?
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DeleteGreat response and couldn't agree more. DB is so lost its sad. Has no clue or understanding of anything he posts. No intelligence whatsoever
DeleteThe "GCR" (Global Currency Reset) is a fascinating exercise in mass self-hypnosis by Dinar "investors" who are so frightened of reality / admitting they're wrong out of pride, and so desperate to keep their scam alive, they've conflated their RV scam with other "GCR" scammers now pumping variants of what used to be known as NESARA.
DeleteIn the real world, anyone capable of reading that article can see it does not mention currency or Iraq once, and like most "reset" talk on the economy is all about restoring economic confidence and debt. Only in delusional RVaholic pumper-land does any article with the word "reset" in somehow get wildly twisted to mean the world's 10 most inflated currencies "must not really be inflated", that it's still the 1970's, and that some magic unicorns & fairies will appear and create a Communist-style centrally planned global govt which attempts a Soviet-style micro-managing of everyone's floating currencies based on totally arbitrary nonsensical values (which of course, just so happens to constantly coincide with whatever foreign banknotes the conspiracy author personally owns...)
The response by Dinaraholics to anything with the word "reset" in is like a real life Pavlov's Bell, except instead of salivating over a real tangible juicy dinner, it's just a bunch of conspiracy-addicted scam victims with delusions of grandeur who swagger around with $860 worth of foreign banknotes trying to be something they aren't, desperately looking for something - ANYTHING - to convince themselves they're millionaires every time they see or hear any perfectly normal report on Iraq or the words "reset" and "economy" in the same paragraph...
Give it up DinarBeliever, and stop embarrassing yourself. Every article you've posted has ended up saying the opposite of what you think it is - this being just another in a long line of failed pumping. You are hallucinating in the literal clinical sense now. Either that or as jrg said - you didn't even bother to read what you posted and are just engaging in "desperation link spamming".
There is nothing whatsoever "unfairly undervalued" about the IQD which fell in value 1,000x in the 1990's due to +300% rates of inflation each year for almost a decade. Just like there's nothing "unfairly undervalued" about the Vietnamese Dong that fell for exactly the same reason (+775% inflation year after year after year...). That is the plain & simple truth. Man up and have the courage to start dealing with reality and stop posting the same stupid conspiracy trash over & over. Trying to throw anything out as "proof of the RV" has become almost like a drug addiction for many - yourself included, and it is seriously not healthy to keep living with such a constant daily mental split from reality for that long.
Brian I don't think it could have been said better. If DB hasn't figured it out after all of the facts that have been presented to him then he is either mentally challenged or has an agenda to keep insisting that all of the nonsense that he is posting has merit.
ReplyDeleteI choose the latter....he has a "secret" Facebook page with followers so he has to try and keep his lies going. He knows how foolish he looks do he had to try and play victim as well. He's probably gotten friends and family involved and is feeling like a fool. He's an idiot and he knows it.
DeleteActually I also believe he has mental issues as well and doesn't comprehend much either.
DeleteWell again DB has has done the debunking effort a real service by presenting the chance to debunk the gurus' efforts at twisting yet another legitimate article into meaning something entirely different than what it really means, in that sense his nonsensical posts are actually doing some good!
ReplyDeleteBrian that was an awesome response! Clearly explained and done in a manner that no one could logically dispute, I had something I was going to say but after reading that I decided you said it all and much better than I ever could!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWFoBZo94e4
ReplyDeleteMax keiser used to be top of Wall Street and he has talked about the GCR
"Gold is the only safe haven asset. All fiat currencies will collapse".
DeleteNewsflash : The Dinar IS a fiat currency and Iraq has the same fractional reserves banking system as everyone else. If the $ tanks, so will the Dinar...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DulkywdUo78&desktop_uri=%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DDulkywdUo78
ReplyDeleteThis was on Bloomberg now please tell me there is no GCR in the works.
This is all about the Euro and has nothing to do with the Dinar or any "RV". Unsurprisingly, you just don't understand a single word of it...
Deletehttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gImJsMt-Lh4&desktop_uri=%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DgImJsMt-Lh4
ReplyDeleteAgain guys tell me there is no GCR
This is exactly the same clip that's all about the Euro and has nothing to do with the Dinar or any "RV". Unsurprisingly, you just don't understand a single word of it...
DeleteBrian delete or amend your post without my surname please
ReplyDeleteCalling someone by their name is no crime or copyright infringement. You can call me "Simpson" if you like? I'm left wondering exactly what it is you're hiding unless like most pumpers your "strength" is hiding beyond an anonymous avatar?
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DeleteVinny is it really any wonder as to why DB would not want his real name associated with all the stupidity he has posted, I mean really who could blame him? Lol!
Deletehttp://mobile.bloomberg.com/video/is-a-new-world-currency-regime-coming-dB_G7HlhSD6pY1X6FgEAHQ.html
ReplyDeleteAgain bloomberg
This is all about the convertibility of SDR's (Special Drawing Rights) and has nothing to do with the Dinar or any "RV". Unsurprisingly, you just don't understand a single word of it...
DeleteBrian - I bet you have a macro button setup for when you respond to DB. "Unsurprisingly, you just don't understand a single word of it..."
DeleteLMAO!!!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRI-5pXGpY&desktop_uri=%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DkfRI-5pXGpY
ReplyDeleteAs above. And Max Keiser is a hysterical gold bug who gets many basic facts wrong...
DeleteTell me I am hallucinating now Brian - Sam I am delete or amend Brian's post it has my surname - I want to know how you guys got my name
ReplyDeleteYou are hallucinating Andrew. Even more than earlier. All you've done is spam off half a dozen links that talk about the Euro and SDR's and quote Bloomberg's token resident "Armageddon Gold Bug" fanatic, and you're sitting there shaking with fervor at the thought of some "GCR" will make you rich for no related reason. Max Keiser was talking about buying gold bullion to hedge the $, not IQD (and even then, he's been predicting "gold will double this week" every week since 2007 including the past year where gold fell 25%)... LOL. Almost as "great" a track record as the RV guru's...
DeleteNone of those links say what you think they do. The Dinar is just as much a fiat currency as everyone else's. If all global fiat currencies eventually collapse that will include the Dinar. Iraq is running the same budget deficit s the USA. Iraq has debts too, etc.
And if all of Iraq's 78bn USD reserves become utterly worthless, all Iraq has left is just 30t of gold (barely $1.2bn worth to back 85,000bn Dinar). That works out to a rate of 70800:1. That's one hell of an "RV" - the wrong way... LOL. You really don't get it do you? The USA has 300x more gold than Iraq and several times LESS currency in circulation. If all fiat currencies collapsed, Iraq would tank even faster than the USD...
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Deletehttp://investmentwatchblog.com/were-in-the-midst-of-a-global-currency-reset/
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This is a junk pumper blog with a whole slew of mistakes. To start with Basel 3 doesn't "reset" any currency, it's about increasing bank reserves & liquidity not currency values... And the video is the same one about the SDR you've posted 3x over now. You could post it 300x more and it still will not change observable reality.
DeleteYou're almost child-like in your desperation to believe in Santa. Well sorry DB (A.R.), he's not real...
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DeleteNone of your posts talk about a GCR, its the UN thinking of using SDRs, or the analysis's claiming the imminent collapse of the Euro (surprise, it didn't happen). Stop flooding the site with this garbage that clearly you either don't even bother reading yourself or are unable to understand past some random mention of the word "reset". Hey DB I bet you own several pieces of electronics that have "reset" buttons, maybe if you push them often enough the GCR will be triggered! I mean what other context could "reset" possible have any meaning other than the GCR, right?
ReplyDeleteIf you want a reality check DB / AR:-
Delete- The USA has printed between $10-12tn for 300m Americans ($33,333-$40,000 per American) and has 8,133 tons of gold.
- Iraq has printed 85tn Dinar for only 30m Iraqi's (2,833,333 Dinar per Iraqi) and has 30t of gold
I cannot even begin to understand your deluded conspiratorial mindset that the $ is somehow "worthless" and the Dinar is "priceless" when Iraq has printed 70-85x more fiat paper money per % population than the Federal Reserve has done with the $, and has 300x less gold to back it with...
Sorry jrg, this was meant for the post above yours. Thanks.
DeleteYes jrg but are the buttons on your electronics Global Reset capable? lol
DeleteLol DB is very entertaining!!! The douchebag keeps embarrassing himself. Never witnessed such foolishness in my life. The idiot is also so concerned about his name being out there but yet has his email posted on his profile page on DV. DB is an embarrassment to mankind
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DeleteI really don't understand the frantic paranoid attempt to try and censor anyone who quotes what is publicly visible on his own DV profile page for months. I can only assume he doesn't want his name / email address (which I'll be decent enough to not post now he's taken it down) to be seen pumping it in case an employer (current or future) does a search or of a backlash by irate "friends" of his who he told to buy Dinar (in which case he can solve that himself by not pumping it!)
DeleteEither that or he genuinely thinks he's a secret agent with a 007 number with his Walther PPK on the trail of a GCR that's about to be initiated from an underground base hidden inside a hollowed out volcano and us "sheeple" don't know what he knows. LOL. ;-)
Lol, don't forget to wink wink nudge nudge
DeleteLOL. Given that he claimed every bank manager of every UK branch of every UK bank, building society & Forex exchange spends all day hanging onto his every word on DinarVets, and that he personally is the only reason UK banks don't trade the Dinar because of the gibberish he posts on DV, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he claimed he was James Bond himself ;-)
DeleteLOL... Been watching football all day. Looks like the real arse whooping took place here.
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DeleteSo what you guys have my name what next you want my address - where I work ect . I did not claim all the banks in the uk. Brian your from Hawaii and you apparently phoned the banks - when they were closed because it was 6pm when you made your post. Brian your 20million arnt you!!!
ReplyDeleteAs I explained before, I phoned them from 3:30pm onwards after your initial 2:20pm (UK time) bluff challenging me to "phone your bank" (I had also asked previously days before in person at 2x UK branches when changing up USD's -> GBP's anyway), I simply posted the results hours later at 6:33pm debunking your 100% guru BS claim of "British banks are telling people to buy Dinar. Go on phone and ask if you don't believe me". But then you knew that as you made the same panicked fake claim before and were corrected on it before...
DeleteI have also never been to Hawaii in my life Andrew. I can only assume you typed "Brian Simpson" into Google then picked the first one and falsely assumed that was me. Well it isn't. You're wrong - yet again...
Actually that was bullshit and you know it - it was around 6pm when you made that claim and by the way who is Rob Saunders
DeleteRob Saunders sounds like your dinar bookie. lol
DeleteYour pathetic lies and attempted failed historical revisionism will change nothing DB. I posted the bank's numbers for anyone else to phone and verify for themselves and they'd get the same response "We do not trade Dinar" - BECAUSE THEY DON'T. You were caught lying - deal with it! As for "Rob Saunders" I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about...
DeleteDinarBeliever's previous claim - "I am originally from Essex the county next to kent. I spoke to to banks in Grays Thurrock. I am not mental I know the conversation I had with the bank and I have people who will back my story up. I went to barcalys and lloyds TSB in the town centre"
DeleteIt is 100% illegal under UK law for regular bank staff to give any over-the-counter investment advice unless they are qualified IFA's (Independent Financial Advisors) with a full Certificate in Financial Planning or the Certificate for Financial Advisers, and you actually pay for that advice, and even then it's 100% illegal for everyone including your "bank manager" to claim exotic untradable currencies like the Iraqi Dinar can be traded in UK banks when they clearly cannot then tell you "not to tell anyone else because it's all a big secret". Pure unadulterated Guru BS.
Given the new 2013 rules on investment mis-selling...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Financial_Adviser#New_rules_for_Financial_Advisers_in_the_UK_from_2013.
... Your stupid made-up "bank stories" where you and all your friends claim UK banks are "secretly telling people to buy Dinar" either puts your banker on the line for fraudulent investment mis-selling in clear breach of FSA regulations - or YOU on the line for libel for falsely claiming "your banker" said things he almost certainly wouldn't have done if he wanted to keep his job... And that's probably why you're so desperate to hide your real name...
Last one I am asking for removal of any personal information on this blog. I will seek legal advice if my name is not taken off here
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DeleteLast thing how the hell did you guys get my full name - my email address never had my surname written on it. I demand to know hoe you guys got that
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DeleteDB, I didn't actually know your name. Last month someone named "Slingshot_Fuel" posted a message here claiming your real name. I then saw your frantic panicked response demanding Sam delete it (which he did but not before everyone here saw it) and assumed it was because it was your genuine name due to your hysterical reaction at having your real name shown clearly next to your scam pumping. Which you've just confirmed that it is. I didn't "hack" or steal anything if that's what you're worried about. And part of your name plus your e-mail was in plain sight on your DinarVets scam pumping account which you voluntarily published and has been visible for months. So it wasn't actually me who originally published / discovered it and talk of legal action is an utter joke given YOU published your own details to the web on your own DV profile and pumping a well known Internet scam under that name! Who is this Slingshot_Fuel person and how did he/she get your surname? I have absolutely no idea. You'll have to ask him.
DeletePurely as a gesture of goodwill, I've edited your surname out of my original post, but I do expect you to understand YOU cannot argue both sides of the fence with your incessant hypocrisy & double standards. It was YOU who have on at least two occasions tried to find my location (even though I have no intention of finding out yours) with your silly "you're from Hawaii!" claims (which are false). It's you wailing on about how "If you're not from Hawaii then you must be "Rob Saunders" person. (WTF?) It was also YOU who wanted to "meet up in person" - something else I have zero intention of doing given your wildly inappropriate & childish behaviour. So far though, you sound like a childish cry-baby who can't take what you've dished out yourself in the past...
As for seeking legal advice, there is no legal right to privacy on the net especially when YOU churn out 300-odd posts per month positioning yourself as an amateur "guru" on an account with your own name on it! And it is YOU who publicly posted your own e-mail address on your own account (which purely out of common decency I haven't reposted), and it is YOU who are pumping a get-rich quick Internet scam and desperately trying to hide behind an anonymous avatar whilst doing so, not me. It is YOU tacitly encouraging people to buy / hold Dinar because you falsely claim "UK banks will trade them". YOU are also the troll here spamming off dozens of links that have nothing to do with Iraq. And you're the LAST person to want to seek "legal advice" given it's related to a well known scam that YOU have been pumping month after month on the back of fabricated "proof" and misrepresented "facts"!
I hope you can now see where you are going wrong and much of this is a backlash as to how YOU have acted in the past with YOUR incessant trolling & scamming.
Sounds like DB is becoming quite worried..
DeleteYeah, DBAR is losing the last few brain cells has.
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ReplyDeleteAndy here's why. Gotta fight fire with fire. Bet you're afraid MI6 is onto your scheme now. So long Senor Troll. LOL
DeleteIt's not bullying DB, it's "Karma". Take a good long look at the trolling you've posted on DV over the past 3 months talking about people behind their backs, trying to "guess" what their real-name is and where they're posting from then sulking when people do the reverse. If you don't like it - stop being such a gross hypocrite and don't do it to others. It's that simple.
Delete"What goes around, comes around".
You are amazing Brian, I have so much respect for you. I could never keep my cool like you do and respond in such an eloquent and fact filled statements. I just don't understand someone like DB why keep going believe me if I was him I would have quit a long time ago. Keep up the great work Brian.
ReplyDeleteHey thanks for your kind comments, Rob! As jrg said I think DB (Mr A.R.) is one of those people who's invested a lot more than he's letting on (both monetary & emotionally) and is now frantic, in deep denial and simply running scared of the whole thing coming apart, all he can do is lash out hoping reality will "go away". It's also been observed that he spent a lot of time over on DinarVets telling everyone he was going to "whip our butts" and to come and watch, then when he came over here, the exact opposite happened again and again and again... he's ended up losing a large chunk of his DV cult following (who used to egg him on - but now there's a stony silence beyond the desperate whimpers of dontlop) and that's something that appears to be really 'sticking in his craw'. Thanks.
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ReplyDeleteI have no idea how DB could come to see this whole interaction as (posted on DV http://snipurl.com/28h42s8) "Hi ya fib it was attempting to show genuine news sites to those cockroaches but they twist and lie and make up stuff to fit their agenda. Then they resorted to name calling.".
ReplyDeleteHas he simply invested more than he can afford to lose and is scared? Is it just not being able to face his dream of riches being shattered? Has he told the bank story so many times that even though we know it never happened, that he actually remembers it that way? (memory can be far more malleable than we appreciate sometimes). We likely will never know. Even if my expertise was in psychology instead of computers I seriously doubt there is enough information from these posts to come to any conclusion.
So the best approach in my view is just to respond to posts such as DB's with the simply truth and resist the temptation to comment on the poster's character (I know its hard). DB may well never see reality in this matter, but others that come here will be best served by seeing one side that rants and twists and is clearly desperate and the other that calmly posts the reality of the situation with links to back it up. The last thing we want is to give the appearance that this is just one opinion Vs another with each side trying to shout louder than the other. No amount of twisting news articles or name calling can make 2+2 come out to 12,000 instead of 4, and that is what this really comes down to.
So indeed Brian sets an excellent example that I hope we all will try and follow.
There is not other way to describe dinarbeliever but as a troll and an idiot. Really, there isn't. We've ran down the whole list of tolerance, assistance, forgiveness, etc. and at each level he has played both forums DD and DV. So he's earned it all because by his own admission he intentionally trolled on multiple occasions. There is no way to sugar coat shiite in this case.
ReplyDeleteI haven't suggested any of those things in DB's case. DB's posting behavior is certainly what is called being a troll and I have pointed that out in previous posts. Venturing further into what causes DB to post such nonsense is, for me, not only rather speculative but also largely pointless. To me, having the idiocy of a post clearly revealed is far more persuasive then seeing its poster being called an idiot. The latter informs the reader of your assessment while the former leads the reader to make that assessment. That assessment may well be valid at least to most of those reading including myself, but if the point is to debunk the RV myth, its at least irrelevant and maybe even detrimental. I understand the draw to let it out, to call an idiot an idiot! But when I read such things even when I am in full agreement, it only detracts from the content. Of course YMMV.
DeleteIn DB's case if we look back there is a wealth of "debunking" of some very popular myths that has resulted from his posts, in his irrational obsession to prove his point (whatever the heck it may be!) he has accomplished just the opposite of what he set out to do. He presented some of the same arguments that were being debated over at DV where in the absence of meaningful discussion that included the actual truth and any semblance of logic they could appear to have some merit, at least to some folks, but over here they were quickly and decisively exposed for the absurdities they are! By having some of his followers come here to watch their hero present his "Massive response" to the "Lopsters" on this site a lot of folks saw just how silly some of these arguments are when discussed in an environment of truth and logic as opposed to irrational dreaming and just plain BS presented by those actively perpetuating the scam. Without a doubt a lot of others came here also to see what all the fuss is about after DB went back over there with a different attitude, he went from being boastful and confident to groveling and whining which clearly exposed not only him but also his silly arguments! So in spite of what DB has tried to do IMO he has been in some ways an asset to the effort to expose this scam for what it is and it very well may have had an even bigger effect than we might imagine, in any case I SERIOUSLY doubt he has earned any respect from anyone for his efforts!
DeleteYes jrg, you are totally correct. I believe that this site is for people to come and have an honest and valid conversation about this RV myth. I know that Sam has said many times that he wants an open forum and ideas and myths debated and debunked. My mom has always told me that people that act like DB are just looking for attention and when we go to those places that jrg is talking about we feed into is attention. If we all just did like Brian did in some of those last exchanges explain what it is and then his catch phrase, "Unsurprisingly, you just don't understand a single word of it..." That will just blow all the steam out of him and will show anyone else looking at this blog and we are truthful and keep our cool.
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