Tuesday, February 21, 2012

An Interview with keepmwlknfny

One of the more interesting characters I've come across in this investment is a guy who posts at a couple of dinar sites under the name keepmwlknfny.  He's a mechanic and aspiring currency researcher.  His views on this investment have evolved over the past couple of years and I thought it would be good to have him share his experiences and views with the dinar community.  He's quite busy these days with his job and a baby on the way, so it took a while for us to get together on this but I want to express my appreciation for his time.


Sam: Could you give the readers a little background on yourself?

Keepmwlknfny: I was born and raised in North Carolina, and spent a lot of time up north in Michigan when I was younger because we still had a bunch of family still living up there. I moved out to Phoenix about 4 years ago, went to school out there and then moved to Atlanta for about 6-7 months. I am now currently back in good ol North Carolina.

Sam: Tell us about your work.

KeepmwlknfnyI currently work for one of the premier German auto manufacturers as a technician. Been working on cars for about 8 years now, on all brands, makes and models but recently went specific to just BMW because I needed a bigger challenge. I took some small air cooled engines classes in highschool and thats what really grabbed my interest in motors, how they work, how they are put together, and of course it lead to cars. Started right after highschool, got my foot in the door just doing basic maintenance, moved to a full repair shop, and eventually went to school for it, got my associates and then luckily because of my abilities, was accepted into some manufacturer specific training with BMW. Its really turned into a hobby of sorts....I really get a kick out of troubleshooting problems and finding a way to make things work. I guess it shows by the way I dissect this investment and all the information that comes across my eyes lol....Just like cars, there is an answer for everything and reasons why something is done or why something happens....you just have to dig far enough to find it!!  I do have to say I get a kick out of hearing ignorant comments about what someone does for a living and how because of that, they assume that you cant be knowledgeable in any other areas or topics. You can learn and teach yourself anything you want if you have the drive and desire for it.....it really is that simple.


Sam: How did you come up with your unique name?

Keepmwlknfny: My name huh? LOL Everyone always asks how I came up with it....let me just start off by saying I came up with it YEARS ago when I thought I was a little pimp with the ladies lol. It was actually kind of random cause I came up with it when using clan names and such for video games. But its so unique and hardly thought of as a handle, that its never taken and always works!  Some might think its "inappropriate" and "immature" but whatever.....its funny....and if you cant laugh at that, then you really need to loosen up....life is too short to be so damn serious all the time!!! 


Sam: How did you find out about the dinar?

Keepmwlknfny I actually found out about the dinar from a friend I met while attending school out in Phoenix. He told me he had invested in some currency, that it was way undervalued (1170 to 1 USD) and that it had big potential to move up to being equal to the USD. He seemed pretty confident that it was worth the low buy in prices just to get a hold of some. Of course at first it seemed too good to be true (as a lot of things are) but it also sounded legit. He gave me a quick rundown of where he got his and some info about what the currency used to be valued at before sanctions were placed on them, restricting their ability to trade. I didnt know much about how currency exchange worked and how to profit on it so of course when I went home I immediately got online to see what this was all about.


Sam
: How long ago was that?

Keepmwlknfny: This happened about December of 09


Sam
: What convinced you at first that this would be a good investment?

Keepmwlknfny: I checked out the website my buddy used to purchase the dinar (DT) and from checking their BBB record and just seeing the UST seal on their site first set my mind a little at ease thinking that this was at least a legitimate business selling this currency. Read some of the history of the dinar on that site, and went a little further and double checked the history of the dinar through other references online. And after reading about the amounts of oil that Iraq sits on, along with already having the thought in my head that the whole Iraqi war was about controlling their oil and the money that comes along with it, I figured there has to be something good going on here and that the US has too much invested in this country to let it fail. Couple that along with the fact that of course my buddy told me that it should be revaluing soon (at this time it was because the govt was having their elections soon, and he threw in the statement that a high percentage of countries revalue their currency weeks after elections) so that was enough to make me want to hurry up and put my order in to get me a nice chunk of dinar asap!


Sam
: Can you tell us about your experience with intel?

Keepmwlknfny
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My experience with intel? Hahaha well to be honest at first when reading dinar forums, I mostly just visited DD. I would read the chats and posts and from the way that SOME were speaking, it seemed like they really had this down to a science. That they had legitimate people "in the know" and at the time it really didnt seem like that was out of the realm of possibilities. Being new to the dinar forums I was of course excited about my decision to buy dinar, and hearing this kind of stuff would just keep me pumped that this was going down and it was always "soon".  Of course after awhile of hearing the same thing over and over, getting all kinds of rumors about high rates and dates and the famous bank stories, it started to get pretty obvious that there was no real "intel". Just people speculating based off what we see in the news and then some it seemed like to just keep an audience by telling stories about what they hear from "higher ups" and saying whatever sounded good and what we all just wanted to hear.  It basically boils down to no one knows when or if this will happen no matter how good their "intel" may be.


Sam
: What changed your mind about the RV and how do you see this playing out now?

Keepmwlknfny: For the most part my mind hasn't changed about the RV in the sense that the dinar will rise in value. Since day one I couldnt see how the dinar could not go anywhere but up and I still believe that with no doubt in my mind. The only thing that has changed in my mind is HOW they can go about accomplishing this goal. When I first got into this I was of course so hyped about it happening that I was only focusing on the good things happening in Iraq. Things that would support or that could lead to a higher valued dinar. I was fortunate enough to meet one of the most intelligent people involved in this investment....Scooter. I do have much respect for that guy and he shared with me and taught me  A LOT about the things going on in Iraq, with the IMF,CBI and World Bank. The guy is a endless source of information!! And can go toe to toe on pitchers at the bar!! (Scooter if your reading this, get your arse out east here and we will go play some pool!) There was a point near the end of 2010 when I thought this was a done deal.....I was just hearing so many of the same things from different places that were not connected it felt like it was in the bag for sure. Months went by and nothing happened and it really made me step back for a moment and rethink through everything...almost going back to the basics and coming at this from another angle. Wondering why it didnt and what could keep it from moving forward. I started trying to verify all the things we were meant to believe and realized that a lot of what we took for fact, had no substantial evidence supporting it and I actually wanted to learn more about where some people kept coming from about the whole "deleting the zeros" issue and what they could actually mean for us. It became clear that this wasn't a slam dunk and that Iraq had options as to how they could raise the value of the dinar....that there wasnt only one way to end up with a stronger dinar.

Because of this, people assumed that I now only saw negative things in everything that came across the forums and that I had converted to being a "lopster"...when in fact all I did was basically remove all emotion from this investment and tried to see both sides of the story as if I didnt even own dinar. I think that it just opened my mind up to other possibilities but of course no one wanted to talk about it, and the ones that did would just wanna argue with me about how it was impossible for Iraq to do anything but straight up RV even though they didnt even understand the topic in its entirety. Im still pro RV...always have been and always will....its ignorant to think that anyone that holds dinar is against making tons of money off it. With that said, I do now try to pick apart any and all information that comes across these forums because I feel like if I can punch holes in it and find flaws, then to me its not legitimate. If I cant really do that then the information is probably more solid and something we can go off of. I have become more realistic in my thinking, staying grounded about everything but that nowadays seems to be classified as being negative. I do see the dinar rising in value....hell I feel with the recent changes (although it was small) with the CBIs exchange rate, moving from 1170 to 1166 that something could be going on here. The rate has been locked for 3 years and although I didnt verify it, someone had expressed the thought that it changed ALMOST 3 years to the day that the program rate was set. Couple that with the fact of them talking about raising the rate to an even 1000 and it seems we are heading in the right direction. But this is exactly what we should expect....small gradual changes in value over time as to not upset the balances of inflation/deflation. Its the most stable way to do it. As the GDP grows and the international reserves grow as well, they could very well keep moving up the exchange rate. The currency in circulation is the only thing in my mind that needs to be dealt with somehow and in a big way. Could they be only showing us what they want to show us? Its possible.....no evidence suggesting thats impossible. There are many variables that COULD come into play....I would love to find out that there is no where near 25+ trillion dinar outside its banks. The question still remains if Iraq will still almost be required to back the value of their currency 100% through its reserves. Even countries that move into Article VIII I believe it is, with the IMF, still rely heavily on its reserves to back the value of their currency. I dont think Iraq pulling off a RV is impossible...and I dont think that their only option is to lop.....thats why Im still invested because we cant be sure either way yet. But regardless of which path they choose to go RV or lop, the end result would be a stronger valued dinar. 

If the CBI is telling us the truth on their intentions to redenominate by deleting the zeros, then we cant say they didnt warn us. All the information we can find, actually backs what they are saying about lopping and why. More so then the evidence or lack there of, of the CBI purposely lying and that its all "smoke and mirrors".  But then again they very well could be putting on a front to keep speculation at bay. I like the fact that Maliki and some of the other parts of the govt have come out and said they are against this plan. I think he is our man in this....corruption and greed make money....not playing by the rules. And as long as they are showing opposition to deleting the zeros, dragging this on longer and longer, the better chances we have of them pushing this plan to the side, voting it down, and possibly sending Shabs back to the drawing board to find another way to raise the value. It can be done....they could sell a ton more bonds and such to try and bring the physical currency numbers down and they could use the auctions to bring them in and remove them, but it seems they arent using it for that purpose. Id say we just need to see what the next couple months brings us....see if they move the exchange rate some more and keep our eyes on any information that might lead to a change in the currency code for the planned new currency. If the exchange rate keeps moving, then great! But if they announce a new currency code for the NEW dinar, we might not like the outcome.


Sam
: What advice do you have for new investors or people who are considering buying more dinar?

Keepmwlknfny: I only have a few words of advice. First off dont spend anything more then you can safely afford to lose (I know I know everyone knows this already lol) Dont expect this and dont rely on this to save any financial troubles or hardships you may have because its possible it wont happen. If things are really that bad as I have experienced through other people, (and my self at times) then you need to get proactive about your situation because you CAN do something about it....only YOU can clear any hurdles you may face!    Secondly, take EVERYTHING you read with a grain of salt, not everything is what its made out to be....take what you hear and read and try to verify that information outside of these dinar forums.....you just might be surprised at what you learn!!

2/22/12  UPDATE!!!  Keepmwlknfny is a proud new dad to a healthy 7 lb. 9 oz. baby girl born at 10:04 this morning.  Congrats to all! 

73 comments:

  1. Nice interview with someone who does not have a clue what they are talking about. Maliki is the bad guy here. This would have been done over a year ago, if not for his antics.

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    1. Rather than dropping a mindless insult perhaps you would care to share with us what keepm is wrong about and why you think he is wrong?

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  2. Great interview. Keepmwlknfny is a bright, and entertaining guy, with an open mind about the many possibilities. I have read and watched many of his posts, and admire this about him. Yes, many people will say he is negative for his thoughts, and I find that extremely unfortunate. It is a real shame when we see people get into an investment that are obviously so desperate for that big payoff, that they completely disregard any risks as not even being possible, and think that by listening and hoping that these gurus that have been wrong time and again for years, that they can wish something into existence rather than researching history and facts to see what the real potential and risks are in an investment like this. Just because a guru out there wishes to re-define what it means when a country talks about the analysis of the advantages and disadvantages of deleting zeros, does not mean that the CBI will suddenly change the definition of it as well. Keepmwlknfny was also correct that the gov't has yet to agree that there are enough benefits to justify this process, and have actually been outspoken of their concerns of the risks involved, so I agree that the Gov't is on our side in this case.

    Thanks for the interview Sam I Am!

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  3. Well... it has just come out in the last day or two that there is Gov backing for the plan.

    A few article quotes...
    "Abdul-Hussein Abtan, a member of the economic committee of the Council of Representatives said: “The agreement includes granting the process of switching currency"

    "The financial committee of the Council of Representatives said on Sunday that the passing of such a law would allow Iraq to address inflation."

    “The Committee agreed with the Central Bank to begin the process of changing the currency local in September next. “

    I will say that this was also in one of the articles...
    "But some officials have expressed fears that the project will increase money laundering and are working to convince the ICB to stop the process. The securities committee said deletion of the zeros will negatively affect trading in the stock market."

    So... I'm not sure how may committies really need to approve it. Do they all, or just one? Does this now need to go before the full Parliment for a vote before it can happen?
    Seems like they would not have given a start date of Sept if it wasn't yet approved.

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  4. wow sam having to resort to picking someone up off the streets to come in and try to verify what you think iraq is gonna do? and an automechanic to boot lol im thouroughly impressed grasping at straws eh?

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    1. First of all he's not just a mechanic. He's a certified BMW mechanic who probably earns more than 75% of dinar investors. Second, Kaperoni's a pilot, so how is he more qualified to discuss the dinar than Keepmwlknfny? And third, I interviewed a highly qualified currency expert last month and that wasn't good enough for you either, so I'm hardly surprised (or concerned) that you don't approve this time.

      Everybody I interview has met with my approval as far as integrity and research are concerned. They don't always agree with each other but they're sharing their honest and informed opinions with no ulterior motives, which is more than you can say for the gurus.

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  5. maybe stick to giving out those coveted awards sam!lol

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  6. sam you might as well have interviewed me you running out of ideas?

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    1. The idea is to interview people who have something of substance to add.

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  7. Not sure why sam interviewed this guy. His info seems to be no better than a lot of us that take the time to study the complexities of this investment. I personally feel the level of corruption that Maliki has introduced has seriously stalled the political process in Iraq. I think this is pretty evident. Not much gets done, lots of talk but very little seems to come of it but I can assure you that there are powerful entities in Iraq that benefit from how Maliki does business. I think partly because of this the Govt. of Iraq will have no option but to eventually drop the zeros introduce a new currency and figure a way to keep the rate the same until the political factors and the people of Iraq are stable enough to actually increase the value of the Dinar. Unfortunately that will most likely take years and in the meantime Iran is licking their chops just waiting for a total breakdown of the political process and a revolt to take place in Iraq which is most likely coming soon....very soon.

    February 21, 2012 8:12 PM

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    1. area52 I interviewed Legolas and Keepmwlknfny because their experiences were similar to mine. We all started off believing that this could be a once in a lifetime opportunity to make incredible profits and eventually did our own research and concluded that most of what is posted about the dinar is BS and in all likelihood Iraq will RD. I can't help but believe that many readers can relate.

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    2. Hey Area52. I think Keepm was merely stating that Maliki has been opposed to the concept of RD, and in opposing it was good for "investors" - not for Iraq in general. I don't want to speak for him, but having read most of his opinion posts, I feel pretty certain that he agrees that Maliki was not the right choice to lead Iraq, I think he would agree with most of what you stated.

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  8. Some of these comments are just additional evidence that people who are uninformed should keep their mouths shut and fingers off their keyboards until they do some research. Sam interviewed Keepm because he's been an extremely controversial, and well-informed figure on Dinar Vets for an extended period of time. More importantly, unlike most, based on his extensive research, he has changed his opinions, unafraid to admit that his initial view was biased by guru, pumper and website forum BS. Some time ago, he entered the realm of reality, and has gone toe to toe with the majority of forum members who refuse to accept the fact that they've been misled by some very clever, and some not so clever snake oil salesmen. Unfortunately, despite absolutely overwhelming evidence to the contrary, a large majority of Dinar investors are still convinced that they are "soon" to become overnight multi-millionaires in return for investment of a few thousand Dollars. (the word "soon" has taken on new meaning after 5 or more years of promises of imminent RV) Keepm is one of the few of us who haven't been banned by the criminals for trying to "keep" it real. We can only hope that one day soon these gurus, pumpers and website owners will pay dearly for their deceptive practices and greed.

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  9. LOL. Go figure....Sam beat me to it by minutes. :) Keep up the great work Sam!

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  10. Sam, sorry about the harsh comments I think that this site is one of the most important sites out there as far as the realities of what does go on in the Dinar community. Keep up the great work I really wish more investors were aware of this site. Legolas I can't tell you how many times I have been banned on DV when I would ask very legitimate questions about "Mr Dinar" Adam Montana, his fictitious name and what actually goes on in the "VIP section" and why he is charging people. Its funny the moderators (which I am convinced there are only a few of them) don't realize that I have multiple aliases using different IP addresses. I always get the exact same "Goodbye don't come back" instant message from the same couple of dork moderators. The moderators contradict themselves over and over again on DV. My threads and questions are always deleted quickly, that keeps the sheep in the dark.

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    1. LOL. Agreed, area52. I never bothered signing up at DV under another screen name after being banned. I consider it a complete waste of time. I've said all that can be said there, and I've come to the conclusion that the sheeple will ultimately get what they deserve, having ignored the advice. With 19 different Dinar-related sites and his ludicrous VIP investment advice, it should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain what Montana is up to, and yet most seem to think he's a saint. The very fact that they're giving their money to an unidentified anonymous entity should sound alarm bells. The banning of individuals who have attempted to expose the truth should eliminate all doubt. I suspect that his empire will come crashing down in the near future, and he'll have to go into hiding if he doesn't go to prison. I have no idea what goes on in his VIP forum, but I'd be surprised if there have been no violations of State or Federal law. He's more careful in what he says than "most" of the gurus and pumpers, but in the end I don't think that will save him. His mods, likely working for free while he rakes in thousands should be aware that they'll likely be near the top of subpoena lists when or if this fraud finally blows up. They are in a unique position to identify the perpetrators, and their actions in running his sites will appear suspect when looking at the big picture. Only time will tell.

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  11. I think Keepm is probably way more qualified to speak than all of the gurus put together!
    Sounds to me that rocknrich is just jealous that you did not ask him. LOL

    I also love this site Sam.... and I love it when you go to the other sites and leave posts there.
    Keep up the good work! I am a fan!!!

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  12. Legolas hit it on the head (whats up brother!) Im not saying that Maliki is the man to save Iraq, or that he is the best person to run the country (cause he probly isnt) I was just pointing out the fact that if he and parts of his govt are against the CBIs plans to redenominate, then thats good enough for me!! I dont care what else he does, but if it takes him staying in power to make me a better return then I am all for it!!!

    Im not saying that Maliki is throwing out better ideas to raise the value of the dinar either....All I am hoping for is that his govt has enough influence to stop the deleting of the zeros, and it forces Shabibi to go back to the drawing board on how to raise the value of the dinar.

    Rockinrich....is there anything you have to contribute? Or are you only able to sit on the sidelines and criticize just because your best friend made it on the dbag list? LOL

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    1. Hiya Keep! Long time no see! Looks like u'r the one who's been busy. :) We banished peeps just sit on the sidelines waiting for the DB's to get their "real" awards when or if the day comes that the warrants and/or subpoenas start to fly. Good luck with the baby, and try to get some sleep. Sent u mail, but congrats again anyway!

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  13. I don't get why so many think "delete 3 zeros" (really known as lift 3 zeros) is a bad thing in Iraq. You all assume that it means LOP or Re-denomination and it should be stopped. Did you ever stop and think, that is what they want you to think? That in fact, there is a better plan just under the cover of such? I have read several articles that clearly stated that this event will not effect one's savings. That tells me this is not a typical event LOP or Re-denomination. This site is good for calling out the Pumpers, but is misses the boat in regard to published facts overlooking several, in fact, literally ignoring them.

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    1. Where do you get the belief that a lop affects savings? In a lop the electronic currency is adjusted via software and physical currency is replaced. Prices on goods and services are adjusted to reflect the new currency's value. Same with stocks. All are revenue neutral.

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    2. We think that its a bad thing because as far as this investment goes, its exactly what we dont want to happen. Of course it COULD just be a cover up and it could be exactly what they want us to think they will do. But there is no doubt in the fact of what they are saying they will is lop three zeros.

      You are very correct in the this event will not affect ones savings, because redenominations dont. As Sam said, its considered a revenue neutral event. What you have before (in value) is what you will end up with in the end.

      Now if these articles were stating that there would be a drastic positive change in ones savings, then I would argue that they are not talking about a redenomination at all.

      The PUBLISHED FACTS are that the CBI is planning to redenominate by lopping 3 zeros off the currency. Whether they do it, or whether they are just blowing smoke up our arses is a completely different conversation. We arent ignoring anything.....and in fact all the availible information that we have access to, actually backs and supports everything the CBI is stating about redenominating.

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    3. It is stunning how many people are involved with the dinar who have practically no clue what a redenomination is and how it works.

      It's really a simpple concept and the fact the gurus have so twisted and distorted the meaning of it only proves to me they are lying scammers and not just simply confused on the subject.

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    4. We have to keep in mind that the well-known goal of the gurus and pumpers is to sell Dinars, rather than to inform and educate the public. To do that, they have to ignore the truth, well-established facts and precedent by twisting the information presented in the media and elsewhere on their own sites in order to convince those who are so desperate to believe in their RV fantasy that the RD theory is nothing more than "smoke and mirrors" - their favorite catch phrase. Desperation makes the slide from reality to delusion much simpler to accept and ignore. If people want to believe that the CBI, GOI, IMF, the media and financial experts have been lying about the numbers and the intent to eventually re-denominate, the job of the scammers is made much easier. The more often they repeat their message the more believable it becomes.

      Our job, having realized what they're doing, is to compile the evidence demonstrating that they clearly had been continuously provided with overwhelming evidence of the truth, and yet purposely ignored it, twisted it, and even prohibited its publication in order to manipulate the naive for their own financial gain at the expense of others.

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  14. as a so called guru myself, i find your site very funny. its like the guys that cant get a date for prom, and there all bunched in the corner picking there noses.
    i like keep, but really, an interview with him, what was dinarc busy.
    and that jagerson fella, if you watch his video, he is wrong on 80% of what he is saying, its like listening to a negative okie. why dont you get someone who people actually like, maybe a kaperoni, or a bondlady, or someone who is really liked sonny1 or stryker. and why are the members on here so wounded, they listen to dumb asses like okie-tk-checkmate- and then they get mad, really. they will revalue, not to the 8.48 that loser tk says, but iraq is stuck between a dick an a asshole like a taint, revalue is the only thing the imf will let them do.

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    1. Rather than sound like an individual who never even "attended" school, and therefore "missed the prom entirely," why don't you provide specific examples of how Jagerson was wrong in 80% of what he said? I would venture to say that your evidence will likely come from "forum facts" and not from readily established and documented data. Every word spoken by Jagerson is verifiable from multiple valid sources. I'm certain he'll be happy to accept your challenge.

      The people you mentioned are well-liked by the sheeple for a very obvious reason.....they tell them what they want to hear instead of what is "true" and supported by evidence. Those individuals have been asked repeatedly to debate these topics to no avail. Jagerson made the challenge "specifically," as have I and others, with no takers. Read the debate we had with Sonny1 last year - despite overwhelming evidence presented to him, his only defense was "there will be no lop." He provided zero evidence to support his position. I've asked him MANY times to do so, and yet it never happens.
      Like the others, his so-called "intel" has NEVER been correct, and he readily admits it, yet is still unable to provide a supportable position. Inquiring minds wonder WHY?

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    2. really, i thought sonny1 did pretty well, showing how turkey was a disaster, and using logic, with all the pro-rv articles coming out these days he would handle you (though it was jmw, i never heard of you) guys pretty well. wait aren't you the guy who sold all his dinar? makes sense you would still care i guess. i do like this site, lots of class, digging up peoples personal info, that is real journalism. and to jagerson, name one thing he was right about in his video? and dont throw that it is illegal to own dinar. lol why don't you contact the economics professor from dv, he would eat jagerson's lunch. hey i dont listen to anybody on the internet about my investment, in fact almost all of them are pathetic, but the most pathetic ones are the ones who try to save people from themselves.

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    3. Another guy who believes Iraq is pre-announcing to the world a 100,000% increase.
      Gullibility at it’s finest.
      Here is an article that plainly states Iraq is redenominating. It also interestingly states that the plan was drawn up with the help of the IMF.
      http://www.rferl.org/content/iraq_said_planning_currency_overhaul_redenomination/24245867.html
      “In the longer term, Saleh said a redenomination was needed wherein three zeros will be dropped so that the 25,000-dinar banknote -- currently the largest denomination -- becomes a 25-dinar note.”
      “Saleh said the monetary-restructuring plan was drawn up with the help of foreign experts and financial institutions, including the International Monetary Fund, of which Iraq has been a member since 1945.”

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    4. thanks for letting me know that it is r/ding, i will sell now.

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    5. I’m sure it wont keep you and other gurus from parroting the lie “The IMF wont let them RD”… even though that has never been implied in any article. All while there multiple articles saying the World Bank and the IMF support the plan. Proof that you and other gurus are indeed deceitful douchebags.
      Provide an article that states the IMF won’t allow Iraq to redenominate and I’ll gladly apologize. I won’t hold my breath waiting though.

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    6. Ok-then,

      The purpose of this site seems to be to keep things as real as possible and you mentioning doing an interview with Kap or BL would defeat that purpose. This isnt a place to hear what you want to hear about this investment...those people you mentioned seem to do just that and that is of course why they are liked...cause nothing is bad or negative no matter how blunt it is! Kap with his super secret translator who of course is saying that all the translations are wrong and that deleting the zeros is the RV we all want and then BL who I guess just doesnt understand what she is reading on that subject, and then when you ask her about how she comes up with those ideas, she runs away like a scared puppy. Either these two are just extremely uninformed on this whole deleting the zeros subject, or they know what it means, but they have another agenda so of course they are spinning it around into something its not just so people will continue to praise them LOL....

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    7. By the way....how exactly was Turkey a disaster? Hahaha....that seemed to be the new excuse as to why they wont lop, once they realized how direct the articles were, referencing following the footsteps of other countries that lopped. Turkey was far from a disaster....the exchange rate was increased tremendously, inflation has remained stable and purchasing power was increased....hmmmm sounds quite familiar to what Iraq is trying to accomplish....its been 7 years since they redenominated and they are not dropping back into hyperinflation which is a sign that their monetary policy changes are and have been working.

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    8. I haven't dug up personal information on anybody. Everything I have posted was already posted elsewhere. All I did was state what was already stated on other sites. People send me personal information on pumpers all the time and unless I can link to it I don't post it.

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  15. not letting me post now, classy sam

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    1. Unlike DV and all of the others, Sam doesn't block posts. Again, what did Jagerson say that is incorrect? He never said that it's illegal to own the Dinar, so where did that come from? And show me where Sonny1 scored a single point in the debate - it didn't happen. If you've never heard of me, then you've just proven that you've done zero research on DV or elsewhere. I've posted literally thousands of opinions, articles and links to factual data over the past 40 months. And WHO is this economics professor your refer to on DV? Do you mean the one Sonny talks about as one of his "intel" sources who has never been identified aside from being "from the middle east"; and who has never once spoken for himself in order for his input and never-correct intel to be challenged? Finally, digging up personal information on criminals is EXACTLY how the law works. They can't be pursued and brought to justice until they're identified.

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    2. i am sorry, i thought this was a bash dinar site, not the fbi.
      no offense to you, i just never heard of you, all i heard is you sold your dinar, and now pretend to be mary poppins.

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    3. Like I said, you're obviously extremely ill-informed - in virtually every aspect, bringing absolutely nothing of value to the table.

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    4. I haven't blocked anybody from commenting here. Legolas had the same problem a few weeks ago. Sorry for the technical issues but please keep trying. I encourage discussion.

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  16. legolas, why are you banging on me, i thought we were good, i guess not.

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    1. Hey Sonny. Welcome to DB. In reality, the banging was directed at ok-then, who saw fit to bring you and the unknown econ professor into play. But since you're here, I'll vent a little. You're obviously aware that I had always pretty much backed u, both on Med's original DV, and on your former, or perhaps current associate Montana's (not his real name) newer and larger DV. As you know, my feelings began to change after the Great DV Debate, when I repeatedly asked you to defend your position, and you ignored every question, stating over and over only that "there will be no lop." I found that disturbing, particularly in view of the mounting evidence which should have been addressed. When a person repeatedly refuses to defend their positions, their integrity and motivation logically becomes somewhat suspect. Given your history of infrequent, but powerful postings of "it WILL no doubt RV by this or that particular date," - all of which were wrong, you can certainly understand why there might be some concern, notwithstanding your subsequent apologies and assumption of responsibility. I still give you props for that, but it's really not enough. People are being hurt - have been and continue to be.

      Then, out of nowhere in late November, you proclaimed that if there was no RV by Jan 1, it would never happen, and that you would be selling your Dinars. Amazingly, two weeks later, you returned, expressing a desire to buy TEN MILLION MORE Dinars with no explanation for either position. This, for obvious reasons appeared to be a classic pump. Shortly after that, when I posted Jagerson's column, having gradually become more outspoken about the very well known and hotly debated RD, I was banned by Montana from posting at DV. I had always known what he was, but gave him some credit for permitting free speech on his site when virtually all of the others prohibited any criticism of their BS. Most who are in the know are aware that in reality, Montana is the KING of BS, with more than 19 Dinar-related websites, books, ads, and VIP investor income streams. Although unlike the Oakie's, Franks, TerryK's, Bulldogs, and the endless list of OTHER Dinar Douchebags, Montana is much more careful about what he says, and how he says it. That being said, I suspect that may not help him much when the Dinar Ride finally comes to a screeching halt. But that's a story for another day.

      Obviously he has now moved much higher on my "personal" douchebag list, but I'm still hoping against hope that your own involvement with him is limited. As always, time will tell.

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    2. i own 74 million dinar, me buying more is really none of your business, find me 1 time i pumped dinar, good luck finding it.how can you defend a no lop, when every iraqi article is a lie, find one article that they did what they said, i m going off the fact that iraq will never go neutral with all there resources, this whole thing is about money, and iraq r/ding doesnt make them any profit, iraq will make trillions off of there rv, pretty easy to understand, just so you know i am not adam, so why would you bring him up, take your issue with him to him. i am just disappointed, i was sticking up for you to all, when you were selling your dinar, even though it was the stupidest thing i have ever seen (unless you needed the money) worst case is you will get your money back, but you could make good money off of it. so i was wrong about your judgement, because selling makes no sense. i was just disappointed because i took your back, then you come on and say i am a pumper. your definitely on the right site, because your backstabbing is that of a douchebag. good luck to ya

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    3. So to you claiming an RV a regular basis is not pumping dinar?
      Someone did a pretty good job pulling together a bunch of your chats here.
      http://dinardiscussions.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18757#axzz1nKdr1BWn

      As for your claim that Iraq will make a profit of an RV. That’s preposterous and shows you have no clue about economics and currency.
      Currency is a liability to a country, not an asset.
      Iraq has 30 trillion dinar in circulation as of now. The whole world combined, all currencies added together, totals about 5 trillion dollars worth. To think that Iraq with less than 1% of the worlds GDP is going to RV 30 T dinar to a value of 30 to 60 Trillion dollars, giving them 6 to 12 times more currency than the rest of the world combined, shows ignorance beyond belief.

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    4. LOL Loving the exchanges here. I don't understand how you buying more dinar, sonny, is no one's business when you put it out on the internet for the whole world to read that you are buying more dinar, let alone telling people NOW what you own. If it's no one's business, then keep your mouth shut and don't say anything. Aside from your stance on the dinar rving or rding, you lose all respect as a man when you tell everyone you are leaving the forums for good, I'm sure just to get a pitty party, only to return as big of a douchebag as you were before you left.

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    5. You completely misinterpreted what I said Sonny. First, I never said you were Adam. I think we know who Adam is, but again, that's a story for another day. Next, I've not seen a single shred of evidence that ANY article referring to the RD is a lie. In fact, there is more than sufficient evidence establishing that what they have stated is the truth. It mirrors exactly what has been done in dozens of other countries, explained in specific detail, and Iraq will be no different IF and when they decide to RD. If you have any evidence which disputes those facts, I'd love to see it. I'm not an economist, but I've spoken to a few, and done a ton of research, and I see no way that Iraq can "make" trillions off a revaluation. On the contrary, in the event of RV, every dinar in existence outside of the CBI is a liability, and assumes the newly RV'd value, whatever it may be. If a dinar that currently costs them a tenth of a penny upon exchange is suddenly worth $1, then logically, that exchange will "cost" them 1,000 times more than it would have pre-RV. With 26-30 TRILLION in circulation, that would seem to represent a pretty significant "liability." In what reality do they "make" money by RV'ing? They only have $60 Billion dollars in their entire reserve. You alone hold more than 1/100th of that total value if they RV at $1. That reserve would be wiped out in milliseconds by a $1 RV. Dinars do not magically become dollars with the stroke of a pen. Not in Iraq, or anywhere else - never have, and never will. It doesn't work that way. If you believe it does, please explain HOW, and support it with "evidence" which can be addressed and challenged by experts. John Jagerson has repeatedly made that challenge, with no takers, and I'm sure he has access to experts with even stronger credentials than his own who can verify his positions. If there's an explanation, let's hear it.

      Next, I don't need the money, and haven't sold ALL of my Dinars. I sold a large percentage, carefully explaining my opinions to those who purchased them from me. The rest I've kept for entertainment value, and
      for another reason which may become apparent in the future.

      Finally, I didn't say you were a pumper. I said that your "actions" could be interpreted as a classic pump. Giving "several" guaranteed drop dead RV dates in the past, followed by your extremely unusual and unexplained actions in November and December would be suspicious in the mind of ANY rational individual. You made those statements VERY publicly, knowing that many people hold your opinions in high regard. You had to know the effect that both statements would have. You could very easily have "quietly" purchased an additional 10 million Dinar without saying a word about it. Instead, you did it VERY publicly, allowing speculation to run rampant with no explanation. On what planet would that not be seen as suspect, and how am I wrong in questioning it?
      Like I said, people have been, and are continuing to be hurt. I don't think there is any disputing that fact.

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    6. hello, i have to admit there is some funny things on here. i cant believe i never received a douche award. lol
      and for the record i never pumped dinar, and it is going to rv.

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    7. Just saw your post on DV Sonny boy. You are clearly worthy of the Douchebag Award. I never called you a pumper, and DEFINITELY never called you a dummy. The evidence is here in black and white, and hopefully someone will take it to DV to demonstrate to the thousands who read that site just what a great guy you really are. With a little luck they'll also post the link above showing a summary of your years of brilliantly accurate posts.

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  17. Sam..GREAT Interview.. keep of the good work my friend!.. HFORD

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  18. Hello fellow Douchebags.

    I believe in the Dinar for my own reasons. It will happen whenever it does and if it does it will be least expected.

    What ever has been said and is posted daily for entertainment purposes is surreal for me. Nobody has any clue what the real story is. Why keep on fabricating this daily loads of hype.?

    The powers to be have it all figured out. Our wonderful elected global leaders sure have a grip on it...lol.

    Let's sit back, relax and let it be.

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  19. Good interview...I like Keepm because he has gone from making predictions of an upcoming RV to a much more grounded position...all through taking the time to better understand what is actually happening. Those who disagree with him most likely have not spent much time outside of the GO RV sites and therefore can't see all sides.

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  20. for one thing i know there are alot of morons in this investment that make it sound like a scam but its not and we all know that its simply a country's currency just devalued at the present time and if you guys paid attention to the aticles and no gurus you can clearly see that iraq intends on rv'ing their currency and not redenominate and if you do think that then your a douchbag and iraq doesnt give a rats azz about the currency outside their counntry the dinar we hold aint going back to iraq anyway its going to our treasury for their reserves and legolas they are using the usd now so its not gonna be a big deal to make the dinar one of the same with the usd as they have stated this many times their intention everyone hears delete the zeros and automatically think lop but when you actually do a little reading you see what they are gonna do and i wanna know why so many people are so dead set against iraq rv'ing their currency id like to know the reasons why iraq wont rv any takers???

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    1. Hilarious. Another guy who thinks Iraq is pre-announcing a 100,000% increase, and calling others morons.

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    2. rockinrich.. on another site you stated:
      "do you really think their gonna come out and tell people their gonna rv?", so if you seem to agree that they would not come out and pre-announce that they are going to do that, then it would sound to me that you would agree that the Delete the Zeros quotes from the CBI are in fact talking about their desires to redenominate, unless of course you are admitting that you have contradicted yourself. Since you have a couple "takers" on this topic, do you care to address this question now?

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    3. rockinrich....How can you possibly believe that the RV'd Dinars won't go back to Iraq. WHO is going to provide that TRILLIONS of Dollars to investors when it RV's? Do you honestly believe that the U.S. Treasury has trillions of dollars sitting in their vaults just waiting to hand out like Skittles to millions of overnight millionaires? Where is this money going to COME from? We are already 14-15 Trillion Dollars in debt. The entire world doesn't have that much money. PRINTING it would instantaneously crash the world economy, and the Dollar would be worthlesss. Wake up man! Nobody can be this naive. It simply can not happen. This is VERY simple math and econ 101.

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  21. why is it so hard to believe that iraq is gonna rv jay p and dave are you guys confident that they arent? iraq has said many times that they wanna be at one with the usd and theyve also said they desire to be a world reserve currency

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    1. Well, I cannot speak for daved, bu I have not stated that they will definitely redenominate, but I have stated that the CBI definitely wants to, I just hope that does not happen, but I do not agree with certain pumpers out there that lie to people and tell them that a redenomination is not even a possibility, because I do believe that not only is it very possible, I consider it very likely. We are in agreement that they want to be at one with the USD, but the only way for them to do that with the current dinar in circulation is via a Rd. Now, if anyone can show that the CBI numbers are in fact inaccurate and off by about 26 Trillion dinar, then I would entertain the idea that they can do it without the need to delete the zeros by exchanging the current dinars for a new currency.
      What are your thoughts.. do you have anything to support that they really do not have that much in circulation?

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    2. Can you really not understand that when they RD, removing the three zeros, without doing ANYTHING else, the value instantly becomes .86 cents - nearly on par with the USD? THIS is what they have been talking about for nearly 2 years now. If they simultaneously revalue by 17%, which would be an extremely high revaluation by historical standards, the value then becomes slightly over $1. Simple math Rockinrich. IF they RD, AND RV simultaneously by a small amount, they then have a currency "at one" with the usd as you say...And WITHOUT the impossible RV event we've all been hoping for for 8 years plus now.

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    3. Rockinrich,

      Its not that we are all saying Iraq cant or wont raise the value of the dinar....cause they will without a doubt....

      But there are two different ways to achieve a 1 to 1 parity with the USD....they can lop and be on par with the USD, OR they could slowly raise the value of the dinar overtime and be on par with the USD...

      Thats the biggest issue....and it seems to be overlooked simply because people havent educated themselves enough on both sides of the equation....2 ways to revalue the currency but the CBI is only talking about 1 way of doing it, and that way WILL NOT make us the profits we want...

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  22. Can't get much clearer than this.
    http://www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

    "He added the exchange rate between the new banknotes and the old ones would be 1:1,000."

    But I'm sure all the douchebags will do their best to confuse and bamboozle. It's what they get paid for.

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  23. whispering if you must know, i left because i have a very sick child, and i returned to take my mind off of the whole situation.
    so sam if you have a dickbag award, you might want to throw to this whispering asshole
    thanks

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    1. I do not care. You are on the wrong site for sympathy. For all I know and is probably the case you are just making it up to make people feel sorry for you, but again, I do not care and didn't ask for the excuse. Good of you to stoop to name calling. I won't reciprocate but will say this, I have been called worse by FAR better people.

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  24. wow, are you a piece of garbage. you might be the most worthless person on earth. you are pure trash.

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  25. i always respected hillsboro, texas, but now not so much

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  26. Keep looking sonny, I'm not from texas. Also keep your private chat invites as well. I do not wish to engage in a conversation with you not in a public domain where you can twist and contort what was said to fit your agenda.

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  27. well i've come to the conclusion that some people are just not that literate enough to read the facts and understand them iraq is not gonna lop their currency thats not what their doing.

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    1. Of course they arent lopping.....this is a guaranteed million dollar money maker!!! And they are and have been telling us they are revaluing the dinar for years!!

      Yea, that makes tons of sense!! Are you spit shinning your buddies Dbag award as we speak??

      Whats your definition of facts cause something isent adding up.....

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    2. Rich... please tell us what you think a lop is.

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    3. Rich... you stated this on another board. "lol their not lopping their currency if they were their wouldnt be aneed for the lower denoms"

      That shows you have no concept of what a lop even is. The main function of a lop is to replace large denomination bills with low denomination bills. Your ignorance on the subject is stunning considering you are all over the net speaking as an authority on the subject.

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    4. Unfortunately, he follows Kaperoni, and his misinformation so blindly on this topic, that I honestly believe rockinrich believes what he is saying. Sadly, while scouring the net spreading the word of Kap, he has obviously never asked for proof of what Kap defines as deleting zeros, nor has he done the due diligence to read up what it means, what it would mean to our investment, and what they do in the process of implementing such a plan. In my opinion that is the plain and simple explanation as to why he believes a "LOP" and deleting zeros are 2 different things, otherwise, rather than arguing blindly, he would finally provide some sort of proof or historical reference as to when a country deleted zeros, and it was not a redenomination, or what his definition of a "lop" is. The guru's out there count on folks like rockinrich to go out and spread the word for them like disciples, and that is unfortunate that people allow themselves to be used in such a manner.

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