tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post942176075377671729..comments2023-05-16T02:24:23.898-07:00Comments on Dinar Douchebags: The Rebuilding of BabylonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-40035593028254369482012-03-08T11:15:49.871-08:002012-03-08T11:15:49.871-08:00While religion has been the primary cause of virtu...While religion has been the primary cause of virtually EVERY war in the history of the Middle East, it's created an even more perplexing problem in Iraq, in that 3 factions of the SAME religion are absolutely incapable of agreement on differences in indefensible religious practices. They never have, and never will be able to live in peace and harmony until religion is finally removed from the equation. Unfortunately, the Quaran is the primary source of education in most Middle Eastern countries. A majority of the population knows nothing else. Until that changes, there is little chance for peace and government stability. <br /><br />One would think that the U.S. would lead that effort to promote secular education and a knowledge of basic science, joined by other world powers. But the reality is that a majority of the people here are equally delusional and under-educated in terms of religious beliefs. Religious entities remain very powerful in this country, and therefor major change is unlikely in our lifetime. Things are changing, but VERY slowly. <br /><br />The gurus and pumpers merely take advantage of a widespread belief in prophecy and the efficacy of prayer. Despite overwhelming evidence, and an abundance of unspeakable tragedy and horror, people still desperately want to believe that a mythological entity is protecting and looking after them, watching every move they make.Legolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281288918648125899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-37696871026279604242012-03-08T11:11:34.545-08:002012-03-08T11:11:34.545-08:00This is why I was reluctant to post this. I didn&...This is why I was reluctant to post this. I didn't write this post to start a debate over the existence of God or the validity of the bible. I happen to believe in God myself and as you might have figured out I know a thing or two about the bible. I just wanted to point out the weaknesses of the argument that God is behind the RV. Could I ask you all to please respect the religious and political views of others and keep the focus on the main issues I'm addressing? People are being exploited with bad intel and analysis about the dinar. There's plenty to discuss about that without arguing over everything else. Thanks.Sam I Amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609519627791409673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-47399457566104941522012-03-08T05:47:54.767-08:002012-03-08T05:47:54.767-08:00The validity and accuracy of the Bible has been qu...The validity and accuracy of the Bible has been questioned and contested (Moses parting the red sea, raising, Lazarus from the dead, supernatural miracles ....etc) since it was written. Of course none of these things are even remotely possible nor are they based in reality. <br /><br /> A majority of the Dinar community's Christians feed on this feeling of riches beyond their dreams its like believing that a miracle will happen before their eyes like Jesus rapturing all of them and taking them to heaven. But think about it, this feeling of a quick RV is based based on greed and money and I personally believe that it's not based in reality since the "Gurus" are really their "Prophets" and we all know how much BS they spew out...... and if I recall the Bible clearly states "beware of the false prophets".<br /><br />I think that "True Christians" would be more interested in helping the people of Iraq through donations and charity than getting rich off of they're suffering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-52205651973978001872012-03-07T19:40:10.090-08:002012-03-07T19:40:10.090-08:00Hey Callingfoolsout:
You know that desire you hav...Hey Callingfoolsout:<br /><br />You know that desire you have in your heart that's urging you to seek knowledge, and that urging in your heart for truth?<br /><br />That's God talking to you man. He wants you to know that He loves you more than anything. He wants to know you, and have a relationship with you. He wants to bless you beyond anything you can imagine.<br /><br />I say that with all sincerity and from the bottom of my heart.The Reederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670575432782210824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-22125892189448650232012-03-07T17:47:21.759-08:002012-03-07T17:47:21.759-08:00I would also like to add that while I served in Ir...I would also like to add that while I served in Iraq I witnessed first hand what religion does. In my humble opinion this world would be a better place without it. Religion divides people. It stops people from thinking for themselves and stops humans from evolving.callingfoolsouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201281885057333907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-23726576290525879892012-03-07T17:39:08.202-08:002012-03-07T17:39:08.202-08:00Excellent post Legolos....education is key!!! I...Excellent post Legolos....education is key!!! I'm so glad schools are teaching evolution again. There's a saying....the easiest ways to become an athiest is to actually read the bible. <br /><br />Morality is doing what's right, no matter what you are told.<br />Religion is doing what you're told, no matter if it's right.callingfoolsouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201281885057333907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-44532554661417416402012-03-07T14:48:26.673-08:002012-03-07T14:48:26.673-08:00I agree D.C. on your points directed towards calli...I agree D.C. on your points directed towards callingfoolsout. Didn't see any reason to argue the fact due to his point of view on the bible and the Christian faith. Would turn into another thread of "back and forth" and, I too along with politics, do not discuss it in this type of arena due to relevance.Whispering299https://www.blogger.com/profile/13696639008563597626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-34245804380215452362012-03-07T14:12:59.640-08:002012-03-07T14:12:59.640-08:00It's a very difficult and controversial topic,...It's a very difficult and controversial topic, to be sure. I wrote a book on the subject more than two years ago, containing overwhelming evidence supporting the position presented here by "callingfoolsout." I was ready to publish it, and then began reading thousands of the posts written on the various Dinar sites by some very fine and otherwise intelligent people who have very strong religious beliefs ingrained and reinforced from childhood. I quickly learned that if you think people are "brainwashed" and immovable regarding their opinions of the RV of the Dinar, multiply the strength of those beliefs by 10 (or more) and you still won't reach the level of the religious convictions of a very large percentage of much of the world's population. I decided to wait, hoping to find a way to present a stronger, gentler and more persuasive argument. <br /><br />While many of them are bigoted, racist, sexist and otherwise dangerous or even horribly destructive in their beliefs, a majority of the religious are well-meaning and harmless, possessing a genuine and desperate need to believe that there is more to come after life on earth, and that this belief is an essential basis of morality. This creates a "damned if you do, and damned if you don't" dilemma which to date has been impossible to overcome. It's an extremely slow process, but data shows that for the most part, society is becoming less religious over time, albeit way too slowly.<br /><br />The answer lies in EDUCATION rather than in name-calling, war and destruction in the name of indefensible iron age belief systems and mythology. Unfortunately, to be effective, this process has to be initiated by the believer, having been convinced to ask and seek answers to very basic questions which then result in a desire to research and learn what science has to offer on the subject. Many formerly devout clergymen have changed their beliefs and written excellent books on their experiences. The information is out there. People merely need to be convinced to seek it out, and most do not wish to. Personally, I'm still seeking a means to make that process easier. <br /><br />Until then, people will continue to kill, maim, destroy, and deprive others of their basic human rights in the name of 226 different religions and multiple deities. Hundreds or more have been eliminated and forgotten over a period of several thousand years, but a few still thrive, wreaking havoc as well as providing comfort.Legolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281288918648125899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-14729390485070061842012-03-07T12:14:16.470-08:002012-03-07T12:14:16.470-08:00Oh dear....well....I happen to be an Evangelical, ...Oh dear....well....I happen to be an Evangelical, a political liberal, and a successful business person who has had a great career, and who has invested my wealth with discretion. I too, reel at the sites filled with partisan ideologies...that Christ is a Republican...that Obama is the anti-Christ, and that this is somehow linked to God blessing His investors. Hog-wash.<br /><br />That would be like saying that myself, as an American living in Canada, can look at the value of the CAD, and anytime is rises above parity, that God somehow is saying He likes Canada better than the U.S.<br /><br />However....please be respectful enough to not lump every person of faith into the "idiot" category...Christians....don't go burning the Koran, and non-Christians...don't go burning the Bible. You needn't agree, and I don't go proselytizing my faith in these forums. But...my faith is precious to me...I don't think it's linked to the Dinar revaluation...and I certainly am not gullible. <br /><br />"Sam's" post simply is giving some context, but let's not use it to jump on a bandwagon of calling into question the tenants of my faith. That does nothing but divide.<br /><br />Callingfoolsout...you've made some pretty broad stroked statements in your first post that I take great exception to. Not all of us Christians were suckered into this investment, nor do we all think that the swill that the Gurus serve up to somehow link faith and the Dinar have any merit. I think that's abhorrent. But please, please, please be respectful to those of us who may be persons of faith who don't fit your demographic.D.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14086948528320452334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-35315207561895580122012-03-07T10:50:45.567-08:002012-03-07T10:50:45.567-08:00I agree with this Sam. Lots of religious people be...I agree with this Sam. Lots of religious people become very gullible when the people they listen to throw gods name and a few passages into their investment and they see a man of faith so they must be telling the truth. Most people that are pushing religion into things they are selling are using it as a tool to get these folks to bite. It's a scam. Many people have been taken for a ride. Especially the ones that follow frank26.callingfoolsouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201281885057333907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-44402923619298707312012-03-07T10:30:02.179-08:002012-03-07T10:30:02.179-08:00The point of my post wasn't whether or not the...The point of my post wasn't whether or not the bible or religion have any value today. That's up to the individual and I respect all views on religion so long as they don't promote doing harm to others. What I wanted to address was the disconnect between what the bible says and what some are being led to believe along the lines of Babylon and the dinar. As I stated I don't really feel that religion is relevant here, but because it is being used to promote this investment it has become relevant so I felt compelled to address it.Sam I Amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609519627791409673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-59621993194198548492012-03-07T09:56:59.921-08:002012-03-07T09:56:59.921-08:00That says it about as well as it can be, Sam. Con...That says it about as well as it can be, Sam. Concise, and to the point. As far as Babylon and the prophecies goes, research has demonstrated repeatedly that VERY few people have actually read their bibles cover to cover. They read only the passages and chapters cherry picked by teachers and clergy for very specific purposes. Were they to actually "read" their bible in its entirety, most people would have a VERY different view of religion, and begin to ask questions for which the answers would be very unappealing. Unfortunately, way too few people have taken the time or the effort to do that. Hence the easy manipulation by gurus and pumpers, as well as never-ending conflict over indefensible religious beliefs worldwide. :(Legolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17281288918648125899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-73631667286295810362012-03-07T09:49:33.044-08:002012-03-07T09:49:33.044-08:00Something else i forgot to mention is that religio...Something else i forgot to mention is that religion has no place in investmentscallingfoolsouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201281885057333907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-63693345408380062272012-03-07T09:22:22.010-08:002012-03-07T09:22:22.010-08:00Great post Sam. Personally the bible is completely...Great post Sam. Personally the bible is completely made up and obviously written by man and not from god...all organized religions have become a joke. Most if not all Christians are hypocrites. The story of Jesus is not original and there are many figures who predate Jesus that have the same story such as Buddha, Krishna, Romulus, and Horus.....even the 10 commandments have been copied from Egyption book of the dead. It's all fantasy at this point. Good job Sam. Keep them comingcallingfoolsouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201281885057333907noreply@blogger.com