tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post71563609475579913..comments2023-05-16T02:24:23.898-07:00Comments on Dinar Douchebags: BH Group Re-IndictedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-83276822768566813482013-12-25T14:12:53.394-08:002013-12-25T14:12:53.394-08:00"People are just supposed to believe him beca..."People are just supposed to believe him because he's a Christian."<br /><br />That's precisely why these so-called pastors/ministers keep the BS RV bible storyline going. I just posted a link about FBI busting a pastor over investment scam. Using his position and church platform to pump that junk. There are more pastor scams on FBI site also if you just search pastor. Hopefully they will land more in jail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-76342397020738447152013-12-25T14:00:47.695-08:002013-12-25T14:00:47.695-08:00According to this FBI article they are taking very...According to this FBI article they are taking very serious investment frauds making it a priority. <br /><br />http://www.fbi.gov/denver/press-releases/2013/pastor-pleads-guilty-to-wire-fraud-in-connection-with-5-million-ponzi-schemeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-24020361321003601282013-12-25T13:29:05.481-08:002013-12-25T13:29:05.481-08:00Dmp9501 you make some valid points. While there i...Dmp9501 you make some valid points. While there is always the issue of personal responsibility (after all, nobody forced Bernie Madoff's investors to buy into his hedge fund did they?) there is also the need for regulation and the involvement of law enforcement. I'm really tired of hearing people say "hey, it's a speculative investment ... we all know that" as they continue to promote scenarios that have no basis in reality that are based on distortions of facts and outright lies. Fraud isn't about marketing and hype. It's about misrepresentation of facts such as what was addressed in the indictments of Rudolph Coenn and Brad Huebner. They are hardly alone in defrauding investors out of massive amounts of money, but so far the others have gone untouched, and that's the issue with me. How is it fraud for one guy to lie about his background to sell a bogus investment but it's not fraud for another guy to do the same thing? Also, the defense of the gurus is often being done by alter-egos of said gurus IMO. There is no question that dinar sales took a hit and dinar forum traffic declined after those indictments were handed down. When gurus and pumpers are indicted it tends to wake people up. Certainly not all, but quite a few. Sam I Amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609519627791409673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-88151646053941856942013-12-25T07:03:56.545-08:002013-12-25T07:03:56.545-08:00I have heard more than once that these guys are ju...I have heard more than once that these guys are just exercising their rights to free speech and there's no law against lying (or being stupid!) if it does not defraud anyone, supposedly they aren't selling anything and they do have that silly "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer but is this really free speech, REALLY??? There is also the old saying that free speech does not give someone the right to yell fire in a crowded theater so if it could be proven, and it looks to me as if there's more than enough evidence, that what these idiots (sorry Sam but that's what they are) are saying does in fact cause a lot of psychological and financial harm then it would seem they could/should be held accountable. Is it too soon to sue for damages before the RD? Maybe if the law won't do anything then the lawyers might, if a class action lawsuit could be brought against these individuals I think they would get little sympathy from the courts and even more so than seeing them in jail I would dearly love to see them destroyed financially!<br /><br /><br />Oh well, I guess this morning is not the morning to be carrying on with a rant so I will get off of my soap box now and just wish everyone a big merry CHRISTmas!!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-50891588003776626842013-12-24T23:38:19.134-08:002013-12-24T23:38:19.134-08:00Rudy Coenen claimed that he was VP in the foreign ...Rudy Coenen claimed that he was VP in the foreign currency division of JP Morgan Chase, which was easily disproved by investigators. Anybody can claim to be anything on the internet, especially when they're anonymous. Eagle1 knows that if he wants to prove his credentials and background all he needs to do is give us his name, the years he worked there ... etc. He won't do it of course. People are just supposed to believe him because he's a Christian. Yeah, right. I'll be talking more about Eagle1 soon.Sam I Amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609519627791409673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-30411761604803685272013-12-24T19:59:14.118-08:002013-12-24T19:59:14.118-08:00I believe it's the holiday wine (truth serum) ...I believe it's the holiday wine (truth serum) speaking and not Adam Montana. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-75185808920289015222013-12-24T10:10:44.982-08:002013-12-24T10:10:44.982-08:00"While that may happen, it’s highly unlikely ..."While that may happen, it’s highly unlikely given the current political and economic situation."<br /><br /><br />It was that exact tidbit of reckless stupidity that I had in mind when I said some articles do more harm than good! I find it difficult to believe he did that but there it is and it totally ruins an otherwise good article. Total waste of space, everything he said was completely negated by that one line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-60076350746413147692013-12-24T09:34:42.662-08:002013-12-24T09:34:42.662-08:00Over at DV someone posted an entry from DinarRecap...Over at DV someone posted an entry from DinarRecaps from Eagle1 (do we know who he is?). <br />http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/168353-thoughts-from-eagle1-monday-evening-emailed-to-recaps-12232013/<br /><br />Its all about how Basel III requires the Babylon II software to be run at the worlds banks and that capital requirements will be 10% and currencies will be backed by assets as part of the global currency reset. All of course total bunk. Within 30 secs of going to www.bis.org you can find a nice one page summary of the Basel III requirements <br />http://www.bis.org/bcbs/basel3/b3summarytable.pdf<br />and it clearly shows the new level is 4.5% not 10% and no where does it even contain the world "currency" let alone talk about some goofy asset backing scheme. As far as I can tell "Babylon II" software is also totally made up and of course there is no global entity that could require banks to run some particular piece of software in the first place.<br />But over at DV the replies are just how informative and interesting it all is, no one it seems even considers questioning any of it. Its also interesting that Eagle1 says "When I was the president of Union Bond & Trust Company in the 80's". That seems likely to be yet another lie, but with some digging one might be able to find a list of such folks. Though it will take some work as (assuming it is the same firm) Union Bond and Trust is now at least a subsidiary of Morely Financial, so getting back to executives in the 80s will not be that easy so if it is a lie it might be a pretty safe one.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-51616968330407382562013-12-24T09:12:00.688-08:002013-12-24T09:12:00.688-08:00oh and now poppy is stating that the price of gold...oh and now poppy is stating that the price of gold keeps dropping and insinuating that the RV is near because of that. then of course he rambles on further with scripture quotes and merry Christmas stuff etc.......these people are just delusional!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-67529279414233572432013-12-24T08:53:36.523-08:002013-12-24T08:53:36.523-08:00if EVERYONE would start filing complaints with the...if EVERYONE would start filing complaints with the FBI and their local state atty generals office about this, I think things might start happening. I mean THC tony is under indictment now for other things and he STILL is scamming people left and right and has no regard for the law. his fat ass should be in jail and in jail NOW. people like poppy and bgg should be in jail as well. poopy is such a liar or so far out there he's on mars! he continues to tell sheeple that the bible says the rv will happen and he has all these sources and Kuwait rv'd and iraq will do the same! LOL. he was even bold enough 2 weeks ago to start cackling about the dong going to rv within 2 weeks etc.....of course not another peep about it just like he did about a year ago. kept talking about the dong rv and all his secret banking sources.....well guess what, the dog has DEvalued twice since last year. bgg has a history of scamming people online with his golf nonsense and some other business venture where he was accused of being dishonest. funny thing is now, he tells sheep that dinar corp is just an advertising "sponsor"....if that is the truth, then why would he forward email correspondence between himself and me to IVY of dinar corp if they are just "sponsors"......LOL...and further, why would be have something on his site stating if anyone has a legitimate issue with dinar corp to contact him?? if they have a problem with dinar corp they could contact dinar corp, not bgg. plus why would bgg handle issues with a "sponsor" he is so full of crap! then of course he talks about how all the other goo roos are going be in trouble for pumping etc.......when he is the pumper and so is his sidekick poopy! not one thing either of those 2 have conjured up has been true at all. bgg seems to allow poopy to do the predictions and pumping these days but is well aware obviously of the implications that could come his way. he also loves to threaten people with lawsuits with no basis of such!<br />it does amaze me though that more legal action has not been taken yet because PLENTY of time has passed to make a case and lord knows all these pumpers love to hear themselves talk with all their hours and hours of conference calls and posts on sites such as recraps, updates and detectives. so again, people just have to keep complaining till something gets done. I think the magnitude of money lost by people including myself is VERY high and def worthy of legal intervention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-47930797249853131652013-12-24T08:17:58.263-08:002013-12-24T08:17:58.263-08:00Do I detect just a bit of back peddling from Monta...Do I detect just a bit of back peddling from Montana? In his Christmas letter<br />http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/168264-dinarvets-email-december-22-2014/#ixzz2oPOXL6la<br /><br />(besides of course pumping his VIP group) he says<br /><br />"The situation with Iraq and their currency is amazingly simple. At this time, the CBI controls the rate unilaterally - there is no outside agency with any control over the rate. It is what the CBI says it is, and that's the end of the story.<br /> <br />Currently they say the rate is 1166.<br /> <br />What will it take for them to raise that rate? The answer is simple, once again. In order for the CBI to raise the rate, they have to be confident that they can maintain the new rate. As always, this brings us back to a major key to Iraq's future success as a country... their ability to function as a free country, producing goods and making sales.<br /> <br />Chapter 7 was a major key in their progress; they are now able to act on their own without the former UN restrictions. The next major hurdle will be the HCL, and all signs are pointing towards that happening in our near future.<br /> <br />One thing that I think a lot of people fail to grasp is the amazing amount of wealth in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar... all extremely wealthy. You can't fly through Dubai International without bumping into a couple millionaires. And Iraq, at one time in recent history, was right up there with them. Although they have suffered a huge setback, they have been working diligently towards the goal of repairing their country and returning to a place of respect and prosperity. "<br /><br />In the past he has said a fiat currency means they can set it to anything they want, but now he at least says they have to be able to "maintain" that rate. Of course he does not explain that this means it can not exceed the money supply divided by reserves and instead talks about their economy. He also does say "It is what the CBI says it is, and that's the end of the story.". In reality it isn't what they say that is important (Saddam "said" it was $3 when in reality it was 1000 times worse), but what they can actually offer. He is still completely wrong about Iraq being so wealthy in the past, Iraq's GDP is higher today then at any time in the past, let alone in recent history. But it seemed a bit more cautions than in the past, so I wonder if he is thinking a bit more about covering his behind than in times past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-19939136420087485952013-12-24T07:45:38.761-08:002013-12-24T07:45:38.761-08:00vinny, thanks for the info, but alas they have not...vinny, thanks for the info, but alas they have not always taken such a clear line. In John Wasik's article<br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2013/09/06/inside-the-dubious-dinar-revaluation-ruse/ <br />he leaves the door open with:<br /><br />"The ruse is simple: Get dinar buyers to believe that the currency will be favorably revalued soon so they can sell their dinars at a huge profit.<br /><br />While that may happen, it’s highly unlikely given the current political and economic situation."<br /><br />Its not "highly unlikely", its impossible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-39081604862572463762013-12-24T02:36:10.678-08:002013-12-24T02:36:10.678-08:00Yes I agree it's up to the individual and the ...Yes I agree it's up to the individual and the fact is that at this point they have to close their eyes to the truth instead of hunting for it like in the beginning and if it were just these individuals getting hurt it wouldn't be so bad, there is however the collateral damage to be considered. Children suffering from their parents' irresponsibility is probably the worst case but then there are the classic cases of the elderly being preyed upon as in most scams plus anytime this much misery is being visited upon such a large group the rest of society has a duty to try and stop it and bring those responsible to justice. <br /><br /><br />Vinny, We as individuals sending a single E-Mail to each of different agencies would likely accomplish nothing but what you suggest about a group effort just might have an effect, there is power in numbers! If we could get enough people involved, I for one would be willing to do all I can, then maybe we might get some results so let's hope others will be interested in such an effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-23813009363291821872013-12-23T22:29:38.911-08:002013-12-23T22:29:38.911-08:00One other thing I failed to comment is although th...One other thing I failed to comment is although there is a level of public responsibility from our justice system that should play a part in protecting the scammed investors, there is still a personal responsibility for their own actions to not allow greed to overcome logic. Unfortunately, this is precisely what we are seeing among many of the gullible speculators. I have to ask if the RV were cancer or another terminal illness would people suffice with forum opinionated rumors to seal their fate or would they be doing some deep seeking for the truth and healing? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-38505965006156018892013-12-23T22:24:06.133-08:002013-12-23T22:24:06.133-08:00jrg, Actually Forbes did call it a scam. So at lea...jrg, Actually Forbes did call it a scam. So at least we can give them credit.<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/<br /><br />http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2013/07/31/dinar-like-dreams-can-be-nightmarish/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-74988259837226152752013-12-23T21:44:02.058-08:002013-12-23T21:44:02.058-08:00dwm,,, you might be onto something. When we want C...dwm,,, you might be onto something. When we want Congress or our government officials either local, state or fed to at least lend an ear we sign petitions or send letters. Ok perhaps our government is not the best example (LOL) but I think you get my drift. I'm not sure exactly how to start this but how about we put all of our ideas together and perhaps draft a really solid petition with real examples from not only our experiences but from the dinar community of those who have been severely impacted such as 'ssmith' post earlier of losing home, family, money, or even the likelihood of people seriously hurting themselves and others ie. suicide or stress destroying them. <br /><br />If Sam is willing to do this and doesn't mind us employing his superb writing skills, one way I believe we can do this is by all of us sending clips and ideas to Sam and he arranges them into a draft. Then he can put up a link with the finished product so that we can download and bombard our local minor and major broadcasting stations. Perhaps even make a youtube clip as well. Point others to the video. Just flood the airwaves and e-waves with these real stories. Perhaps even John Jagerson may have an idea or other outlets we can flood. If it gets slammed, discredited, ignored then perhaps there is a major force out there that is behind this entire scam and will explain why the media is not touching it.<br /><br />Just a thought!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-81730333271050331972013-12-23T21:30:31.246-08:002013-12-23T21:30:31.246-08:00As most if not all of us know Forbes, who is a hig...As most if not all of us know Forbes, who is a highly credible financial publication, has written about this being a scam numerous times yet no one else of their caliber has followed suit. That alone says something quite troubling. But to Sam's credit about the media afraid to report it a scam is like playing chicken. When you have fools like Jim Cramer of 'Mad Money' and Erin Burnett of 'CNBC' touting it a good possibility you'll be hard pressed to see any other news agency contest that view because it's the infamous 'what if' factor which is the same selling point for all those who invested at one point or remain invested today.<br /><br />Then you have this interview that was on Bloomberg News - "Taking Stock" with Pim Fox. http://tinyurl.com/njfv8rp<br /><br />On the flip side you have knucklehead scammers like Kevin Trudeau denouncing the IQD so that in and of itself says a lot about this being a scam. Even he would not recommend wasting money on dinar. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-61723716720835996512013-12-23T21:14:24.847-08:002013-12-23T21:14:24.847-08:00This is exactly the perfect storm brewing for thes...This is exactly the perfect storm brewing for these poor gullible folk. So many stories of families being torn apart, homes being lost, family & personal businesses collapsing, and many inflicting illnesses upon themselves as well as those around them due to the stress of a BIG LIE!! If that is not enough for them to wake up perhaps they never will because once they come to the temporary realization that the "wealth" by way of IQD RV will never happen all we can expect is the worse for them. Possibly even the suicide. This RV is more than a curse, it is a cancer. A real cancer that spreads and kills. There have been some alleged suicide stories in the past few years because people ended up living in their cars due to sinking all of their money in this trash investment so their last ounce of hope for salvation was "hitting it big". <br /><br />What's even worse is that innocent bystanders may very well become victims and unintended targets if these people don't get a grip of themselves. Surely this can have a profound negative effect on society and no one will see it coming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-21454335458695812482013-12-23T20:58:21.551-08:002013-12-23T20:58:21.551-08:00Brian reported, "The only official currency e...Brian reported, "The only official currency exchange locations will be located within Iraq." <br /><br />I now ask Brian, what am I to do with the airline ticket to Wells Fargo in Nevada and the huge trunk I was going to transport my dinar in to exchange with the "Big Whales"?? This is not what Madame Wu lead me to believe. <br /><br />LOL!!!!<br /><br />Hey Brian, that was a really good post. Sadly, I don't think the dreamers will let this sink in. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-19887035686070140152013-12-23T20:26:17.273-08:002013-12-23T20:26:17.273-08:00I suspect that fraud is a tough thing to prosecute...I suspect that fraud is a tough thing to prosecute due to the "escape clause" of the fine print. Civil suits however might e quite different and we might see a bunch of those at some point. The media certainly could do more. Maybe they are afraid of begin sued, but if that is the reason it seems a pretty lame one. Even the Forbes article didn't come fully out and call it scam. I emailed Jim Kramer's show telling him that videos of his show where he just says "maybe" buying dinar could be good is being used to promote a scam and that he could do a great service by clearly stating that its a scam, but of course no response. I emailed the IMF about the fact that their reports describing their monitoring program and the exchange rate that program uses (i.e. the "program rate") is being used by scammers to claim the IQD exchange rate is being held down but again no response. So, at least for now I think its pretty much up to us all to spread the word. Even once it RDs the scammers will just say that "well it was always a possibility", and those that have been careful will not have to answer for the misery they caused. But then again civil actions have a much lower bar then criminal prosecutions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-85365978796906034422013-12-23T18:43:57.138-08:002013-12-23T18:43:57.138-08:00While it would be nice if law enforcement and medi...While it would be nice if law enforcement and media took a more prominent stand, there is the point of individual responsibility. Our family members and others are involved in this of their own free will. And we have done all the research and provided them with facts yet they persist in their craziness. What makes us think media or law would have better influence? Now don't get me wrong I want to see these scum bags prosecuted but I don't see it as a way to get delusional dinarians to come to their senses. In fact they are very protective of the scammers. Believe they are being wronged by our government. It's all part of the world wide conspiracy In fact it hardens the resolve of my loved one Dmp9501https://www.blogger.com/profile/11663831060266969612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-40776334887947086822013-12-23T17:12:20.748-08:002013-12-23T17:12:20.748-08:00Maybe they are overwhelmed with what they consider...Maybe they are overwhelmed with what they consider more important issues or maybe it's just plain old incompetence but if they aren't going to prosecute it would seem they would at least put a little more teeth into the warnings. Their so called warnings in any Dinar article I've seen looked like little more than advice to research before investing and some of them almost made it seem legit even if fraught with risk. I have yet to see any Government agency plainly spell it out and some of the articles probably did more harm than good! Maybe if we could concentrate our efforts and zero in on the appropriate agency or news service, maybe both, we might get someone involved that has the clout to get something done. Just wishful thinking I suppose and I wouldn't even know where to start or who to contact but I would sure like to do more if I could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-91362802013598932212013-12-23T16:34:42.040-08:002013-12-23T16:34:42.040-08:00I certainly think they should do more. Unfortunate...I certainly think they should do more. Unfortunately as John Jagerson has told me, investment fraud is rampant and law enforcement is overwhelmed. Most of the people hired to investigate investment fraud are fresh out of college and they don't have the experience necessary to adequately pursue these cases. As for the media, most of them are like a lot of dinar investors. They don't know enough to form a conclusion as to whether or not a windfall from an RV is possible, so they're reluctant to call it a scam. That's why it falls to citizen journalism to point these things out. Do you remember who broke the story on Monica Lewinski? It was Matt Drudge from the Drudge Report. He published the story that was spiked by Newsweek because it was too hot. Free Republic debunked the 60 Minutes story on Bush and the National Guard. And for those of you who don't know, it was a guy called Glimdropper at realscam.com who published the info on Rudy Coenen that led to him being indicted on fraud charges. Like it or not, we have been forced into this role by a bogged down justice system and an incompetent media. Sam I Amhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609519627791409673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-48238001867455233972013-12-23T15:23:52.059-08:002013-12-23T15:23:52.059-08:00How about some opinions, does anyone think Law Enf...How about some opinions, does anyone think Law Enforcement should/could be doing more? How about the media, are they turning a blind eye to this? How could we contact authorities/media/whoever to voice our concerns about this huge swindle that has affected so many yet seems to have gone largely unnoticed? It's nothing short of appalling to me that this has gone on for so long yet it seems when any Government agency, state or federal, has even mentioned it they simply dodge the real problem and issue lame blanket warnings about investing in questionable ventures even when the main topic being discussed is Dinar! It's as if anyone with any authority is afraid to come right out and say "DINAR INVESTMENT IS A SCAM" but why is this? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5596379580203915255.post-228716911092988382013-12-23T14:02:55.510-08:002013-12-23T14:02:55.510-08:00Broke and losing their home but buying ON RESERVES...Broke and losing their home but buying ON RESERVES!!!! That says it all about how deeply these people have become involved in this mess. Some may find it hard to believe that people would really become that involved but believe me they do and I personally know some that have, THAT'S the reason I'm here! <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com